Why does everyone rush so quickly in this game?

[kelevra13]

It doesn't take a lot of time to sightsee. It'll at most extend the dungeon by one or two minutes. I don't understand how that's arrogant.

So many legitimate points and it boils down to "it doesn't take long so the other 3 guys should just deal with it". How the other members of your party want to spend those 2 minutes, is up to them. Imposing how you want a dungeon to be played (whether slow or rushed) while the other plays don't agree/don't want to and complaining about it IS arrogance.

Case in point: I queued for DF Leveling and got Toto-Rak. 3 sprouts. 2 of them (tank and healer) were new to the dungeon.
I didn't complain despite wanting to rush it (since I don't like this dungeon) because I'm not rude, arrogant, and entitled.
I didn't impose that tank should pull big and that we should rush (the tank was reading the pieces of paper in the dungeon and explored) because I'm not rude, arrogant, and entitled.

Out of curiosity, do you ask the party at the start if you could take pics and take the dungeon slow?
I remember running the Vault and the tank asked to pause for a bit since his/her toddler woke up. We all obliged. I know this is not the same case, but communicating might help if you really don't want to use PF for some reason (despite PF being the proper course of action in your case).

[Cilia]

It doesn't take a lot of time to sightsee. It'll at most extend the dungeon by one or two minutes. I don't understand how that's arrogant.

You're suggesting if not demanding that 1-3 other people play your way, while stating that playing their way is disrespectful and doesn't allow them to properly enjoy the game. It's incredibly arrogant to tell other people they should play your way for your sake, and that they'd enjoy it more if they played it how you tell them to.
Who are you to say so much?

This is just an entitlement attitude that you see more from the NA servers. In JP it's more about can I do to help the group, to make the experience more enjoyble to the other members of the party. Here in NA, we have a lot of people with entitled mindset thinking I'm going to do what I want to do, and if others don't like it they can just deal with it.

Spoiler alert: cultural differences are a thing.

[GrimGale]

You don't like people in your group? You can leave.
You see people go too fast, or too slow? You can leave.
You don't like the glamour of your healer? You can leave.

Whatever the reason, you are not forced to bear with people in this game.
I wish the 30 minute penalty was shorter, though.

[Vortuna]

I used to like healing when the tanks respected the group's time, and gave me a good learning experience in healing multi pack pulls.

I quit healing when the single pullers started outnumbering the experienced pack pullers even in lvl 80 dungeons.

I became the tanks I admired so much.

[technole]

Some diehard vets in this game alarm-clock all patches, bum rush through the story, complete all NM raids and even EX trials on day one by midnight. If you get in the way of their schedule, it's going to get nasty.

Day two, even if they already did that new expert dungeon, if you slow them down with single pulls, you're going to feel the wrath. You're getting in the way of their 2pm meet up to farm the newest EX trial.

Never mind they might still end up wiping for hours in a 'farm' still cause there are the barely-clearers that make farming a chore as the days go by.

I can go on if you'd like!

[MilitaryVet123]

Some diehard vets in this game alarm-clock all patches, bum rush through the story, complete all NM raids and even EX trials on day one by midnight. If you get in the way of their schedule, it's going to get nasty.

Day two, even if they already did that new expert dungeon, if you slow them down with single pulls, you're going to feel the wrath. You're getting in the way of their 2pm meet up to farm the newest EX trial.

Never mind they might still end up wiping for hours in a 'farm' still cause there are the barely-clearers that make farming a chore as the days go by.

I can go on if you'd like!

Exactly my point. People rush too quickly in this game even if it's their first time.

[Wilford111]

You should honestly try to find some people that share your point of view.

Because with DF, you'll be grouped with people with different expectations/level/behavior.....

So if you want to guanrantee yourself to enjoy the content 100% as you wish, the best is premade.

This is a great point actually. Try Party Finder! In fact, I've been meaning to put up a Party Finder entry for "The Twinning" for those that would like to stop and read the little log exerpts that are scattered throughout the dungeon. I think you could very well be able to find a group of party that is willing to run through dungeons slowly with you if you look for them.

[Jin-]

But what about the new players? They're more interested in exploring and enjoying the content. The worst culprit is the Praetorium where everything dies in seconds after watching a minute-long cutscene. It was anticlimactic and if people slowed down new players will actually be able to enjoy that dungeon like it was truly an epic final dungeon!

When i joined to the game i was watching the first cutscene in The Praetorium when my team was already killing the last bosses there. In the past cutscenes were skippable and i can say that it was way worse than it is now especially if you wanted to follow the story

[File2ish]

Exactly my point. People rush too quickly in this game even if it's their first time.

Different strokes for different folks. Everyone has different goals, your way of approaching things is just as valid as another player approaching it wanting to get it done as fast as possible.

There are players who love the story, there are players who couldn't care less about any game's story. Some players optimize their rotations to get higher DPS, others learn their jobs "good enough" for the content they want to play. Some hardcore raid, some craft, some are here just for community interaction, others play for story and lore, etc. Some like to kick back and take things slow in a dungeon, others like to complete things as fast as possible.


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But what about the new players? They're more interested in exploring and enjoying the content. The worst culprit is the Praetorium where everything dies in seconds after watching a minute-long cutscene. It was anticlimactic and if people slowed down new players will actually be able to enjoy that dungeon like it was truly an epic final dungeon!

The problem with Prae now is that by that point everyone is so overgeared that the dungeon is trivialized. I've been playing for 7 years now (a bit longer if I include the short time I had in 1.X), and it was pretty epic back when everyone was ilvl 45-70 and most groups had at least half the party being new. Over time, however, as ilvls increased and new players were fewer, it became too easy and Prae became the most efficient for tome farming. The only thing that made Prae long was the cutscenes, and they were skippable. Fast forward to when they disabled cutscene skipping, new players get to enjoy the cutscenes as they happen now. But that can't stop the efficient players from doing their thing. It sucks, but it's a byproduct of the dungeon's design (which was never repeated due to the controversies it created).

[Liam_Harper]

One reason it's good Squadrons and Trusts exist. You can admire the scenery, read those notes on the ground, stop for a drink and take your time figuring out mechanics and they'll wait for you. In a team, it's majority rules. You can't expect 3 other people to wait around if they prefer to rush in the same way you can't rage over smaller pulls if 3 others are happy with it.

Hopefully they continue to develop on it, it's a good system.