The toxicity starting to happen.

[Yuella]

the difference between small pulls and big pulls is less than 5 minutes. just chill and follow the tank's pace.

[Legion88]

the difference between small pulls and big pulls is less than 5 minutes. just chill and follow the tank's pace.

Yeah, it's "just" 5 minutes and just a tiny amount but by a total of 15 minutes vs 20 Minutes it's 25% and that is huge in comparision.

I know big pulls as part of this game since back to Bryflox's Longstop (Hard), so 2.25, where the general strat was "pull everything to the bossline, pull the boss and lock as much of the trash outside of the boss arena as possible".
After that dungeon was introduced double, tripple and full pulling started to be the general strategy for every dungeon and it worked.
But then SE decided to put "walls" and "gates" into the dungeons and force the players to fight the trash between the bosses but you can still pull everything from wall to wall, even with gear near the min. iLvL but it will be slightly more challanging and DefCDs and more frequent healing are recommended.

Fun facts: I've *almost* never seen any of this on Japanese data center. People might complain behind closed doors etc, but there's a wonderful culture of keeping your mouth shut and just letting people play the !@% game.

Yeah, but the healer not being comfortable with large pulls will still works his ass off to make the run as fast as possible for the party, while on the western DCs a healer not comfortable with big pulls mostly just wants to have more downtime to do things not related to completing the content. Japanese healers are still goal orientated and will DPS as much as possible independent of the pull size while we in the west have to fight against meme pure healers as the standard for this communities healers.

[kaynide]

Yeah, it's "just" 5 minutes and just a tiny amount but by a total of 15 minutes vs 20 Minutes it's 25% and that is huge in comparision.

I waste more time derping out in front of the market board or staring off into space, so I'm not really concerned here. If we were talking 20 min ballooning into a 1 hour extravaganza it might be different.

Japanese healers are still goal orientated and will DPS as much as possible independent of the pull size while we in the west have to fight against meme pure healers as the standard for this communities healers.

I mean maybe, but I would say general competency/goals are about the same for any country really. Any differences we see is more about manners in my very humble opinion. I mean, when my wife is a healer, she basically goes into dungeons kicking and screaming like the whole building is on fire. She gets so nervous people might die that she just doesn't really do a lot of DPS. That said she refuses to PUG as tank or healer more out of a fear of letting others down than any particular worry about people getting angry at her.

ah, clarification if I didn't mention, she is Japanese.

[Awha]

the difference between small pulls and big pulls is less than 5 minutes. just chill and follow the tank's pace.

One could argue if the healer and dps are up to it large and small pulls requires similar amounts of effort. So why not pull large?