5.3 COMPLETE patch notes

[Katie_Kitty]

Yet on the same page, you said Warrior deserves to be in the trash bin. Wouldn't that also be classified as "completely rude to the people who love the job and play it as their main?"

And whether you like it or not, that was Red Mage's reputation until it was buffed. There's a reason TEA groups frequently excluded it from their recruitment ads or at least showed preference towards Black Mage and Summoner. Both were far and widely superior. When Summoner can boast nearly 1,000 more rDPS and also raise. Red Mage's value kind of falters.

Don't care in the slightest. If you're gonna try to shove my job into a box then yes I'm going to rebel against that. Don't like it? Then don't do it.

What I wanna know is why you're boohooing over someone's opinion about Red Mage while at the same time trashing people who main Warrior. Can I have an answer to that?

It's really simple. One is clearly a statement of opinion, the other a transparent attempt to present opinion as fact. I never once said "Warrior is this thing and should be played for this reason" yet the other person did say that about RDM.

[LittleChickenNugget]

Don't care in the slightest. If you're gonna try to shove my job into a box then yes I'm going to rebel against that. Don't like it? Then don't do it.



It's really simple. One is clearly a statement of opinion, the other a transparent attempt to present opinion as fact. I never once said "Warrior is this thing and should be played for this reason" yet the other person did say that about RDM.

So we're just pretending the rest of us don't know what that user posted was that users opinion so we can pretend to be offended because we're bored and can't be in the game today?

Alright, that explains all I need to know. Carry on.

[ForteNightshade]

Don't care in the slightest. If you're gonna try to shove my job into a box then yes I'm going to rebel against that. Don't like it? Then don't do it.

Except your "rebellion" came in an entire separation conversation. You quoted someone who said nothing about Red Mage and trashed Warrior. The two were never related and now you're just backpedaling on being hypocritical.

There's no job in this game that's "complex." Your beloved summoner is not a hard job. If someone can't prog on their main job and need to play RDM to do it then clearly they do not know their main job very well, and are wasting their time playing a job they're not into just because they think it's somehow more okay to be mediocre on it than it is for them to be mediocre on their main. In fact, that goes double for summoners because their job is also excellent for prog.

Black Mage requires you know the entire fight to properly optimize your movement tools. It is far and away harder to master than Red Mage, and is frankly useless in a prog setting since you aren't prioritizing damage. Therefore, many Black Mage mains will prog on Red Mage and strategize how the fight would go on Black Mage. It isn't a matter they can't prog on Black Mage, it's just harder. You can deny it all you fancy but Red Mage is considered the "easy" caster because, well, it is.