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    Katie_Kitty's Avatar
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    Princess Whiskers
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    I literally RDM until a fight is basically smooth and then BLM after, or at least did last tier before I swapped to healing.

    It isn't just training wheels for the party (for the raise) but also for me. I learn when the movement heavy parts of a fight are on a job that's nice and forgiving then I can adjust BLM to fit. This usually results in much less of a curve in my BLM parses too, since I'm starting on it with a baseline of where I need movement tools in mind.

    RDM doesn't need to be a training wheels job for you but being mad at other people for using it as one is nonsense, it's a perfect fit.
    I don't care what you do. You can do whatever you want. But I do care when you go around intentionally telling other people that RDM is just a "training wheels" job. It's completely rude to people who love the job and play it as their main.
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I don't care what you do. You can do whatever you want. But I do care when you go around intentionally telling other people that RDM is just a "training wheels" job. It's completely rude to people who love the job and play it as their main.
    I main WHM but RDM is my main dps job and I love it for it's heals and raise support. It's really under appreciated at times when you raise 10+ people including both healers in a duty and not get one comm.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 08-11-2020 at 09:03 AM.

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    Iyami Galvayra
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra View Post
    I main WHM but RDM is my main dps job and I love it for it's heals and raise support. It's really under appreciated at times when you raise 10+ people including both healers in a duty and not get one comm.
    My record is 23 raises in a single Copied Factory run with zero comms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    My record is 23 raises in a single Copied Factory run with zero comms.
    Oh wow. That's insulting but believe me I know the feeling. lol
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    I don't care what you do. You can do whatever you want. But I do care when you go around intentionally telling other people that RDM is just a "training wheels" job. It's completely rude to people who love the job and play it as their main.
    Yet on the same page, you said Warrior deserves to be in the trash bin. Wouldn't that also be classified as "completely rude to the people who love the job and play it as their main?"

    And whether you like it or not, that was Red Mage's reputation until it was buffed. There's a reason TEA groups frequently excluded it from their recruitment ads or at least showed preference towards Black Mage and Summoner. Both were far and widely superior. When Summoner can boast nearly 1,000 more rDPS and also raise. Red Mage's value kind of falters.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Hana Kaneuchi
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    Imagine getting upset about someone else's opinion over a fake class in a video game. Some people need to let their butts breathe from their chairs and step outside from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    Imagine getting upset about someone else's opinion over a fake class in a video game. Some people need to let their butts breathe from their chairs and step outside from time to time.
    Congratulations on being so far above the rest of us. Want a cookie?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Congratulations on being so far above the rest of us. Want a cookie?
    What I wanna know is why you're boohooing over someone's opinion about Red Mage while at the same time trashing people who main Warrior. Can I have an answer to that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Yet on the same page, you said Warrior deserves to be in the trash bin. Wouldn't that also be classified as "completely rude to the people who love the job and play it as their main?"

    And whether you like it or not, that was Red Mage's reputation until it was buffed. There's a reason TEA groups frequently excluded it from their recruitment ads or at least showed preference towards Black Mage and Summoner. Both were far and widely superior. When Summoner can boast nearly 1,000 more rDPS and also raise. Red Mage's value kind of falters.
    Don't care in the slightest. If you're gonna try to shove my job into a box then yes I'm going to rebel against that. Don't like it? Then don't do it.


    Quote Originally Posted by LittleChickenNugget View Post
    What I wanna know is why you're boohooing over someone's opinion about Red Mage while at the same time trashing people who main Warrior. Can I have an answer to that?
    It's really simple. One is clearly a statement of opinion, the other a transparent attempt to present opinion as fact. I never once said "Warrior is this thing and should be played for this reason" yet the other person did say that about RDM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katie_Kitty View Post
    Don't care in the slightest. If you're gonna try to shove my job into a box then yes I'm going to rebel against that. Don't like it? Then don't do it.



    It's really simple. One is clearly a statement of opinion, the other a transparent attempt to present opinion as fact. I never once said "Warrior is this thing and should be played for this reason" yet the other person did say that about RDM.
    So we're just pretending the rest of us don't know what that user posted was that users opinion so we can pretend to be offended because we're bored and can't be in the game today?

    Alright, that explains all I need to know. Carry on.
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