I'm gonna say something unpopular: I don't like to rush.

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I get what you're saying here but that's kind of a moot point in XIV as a tank - as long as you get off an AoE combo or two (even if there are gaps between your GCDs) and start with a CD you'll be totally fine. You don't really need 100% uptime on a trash pack for things to be going well since there are three other people there who aren't being targeted by so many AoE who will kill the stuff for you.

Yeah, I can hold aggro no problem. And I haven't had anyone complain about my tanking so far. I've even received all three comms several times. But I know there's elitists out there who think everyone not performing in the top 10% dps is wasting their time. I mean, back in Stormblood some tanks ran dungeons in dps stance and with dps materia because it let them do more damage. A few were even able to pull it off and still hold aggro. That's moot now of course since tank stance has no downsides, but I hope I never have to meet someone who demands me to use their personal meta of the week. And this implies that the suggested strategy is not or only marginally beneficial. I'm happy enough to incorporate advice into my playstyle but if someone wants me to eat AoEs and vuln stacks so they can get a better dps parse, yeah no. And I guess this has gone off on a tangent so I'll stop ranting now.

[Veis_Alveare]

Yeah, I can hold aggro no problem. And I haven't had anyone complain about my tanking so far. I've even received all three comms several times. But I know there's elitists out there who think everyone not performing in the top 10% dps is wasting their time. I mean, back in Stormblood some tanks ran dungeons in dps stance and with dps materia because it let them do more damage. A few were even able to pull it off and still hold aggro. That's moot now of course since tank stance has no downsides, but I hope I never have to meet someone who demands me to use their personal meta of the week. And this implies that the suggested strategy is not or only marginally beneficial. I'm happy enough to incorporate advice into my playstyle but if someone wants me to eat AoEs and vuln stacks so they can get a better dps parse, yeah no. And I guess this has gone off on a tangent so I'll stop ranting now.

I don't think these people really exist.

I say this as a player who's static forced them to swap jobs for better kill times, I have some friends who really care about efficiency even more than I do but the only things I've heard them complain about in terms of DF tanks are baby pulls and no mitigation. If your uptime is great enough to hold threat whatever dps the group loses while you dodge is just so completely outclassed by everyone being able to properly AoE down full packs... anyone with a brain in their head won't care.

I'm not saying don't try to do better and improve your uptime on larger pulls but I don't see you catching much flak for having slightly lackluster damage as long as all the stuff is hitting you and you're full (or at the very least double) pulling.

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I don't think these people really exist.

I say this as a player who's static forced them to swap jobs for better kill times, I have some friends who really care about efficiency even more than I do but the only things I've heard them complain about in terms of DF tanks are baby pulls and no mitigation. If your uptime is great enough to hold threat whatever dps the group loses while you dodge is just so completely outclassed by everyone being able to properly AoE down full packs... anyone with a brain in their head won't care.

I'm not saying don't try to do better and improve your uptime on larger pulls but I don't see you catching much flak for having slightly lackluster damage as long as all the stuff is hitting you and you're full (or at the very least double) pulling.

The other day I had a tank in Anamnesis Anyder who at the last boss said "we stay for the run mechanic". I'm not sure what exactly that was about but I strongly suspect it was to increase uptime. Things got a bit confusing and me (healer) and at least one DPS ended up running anyway. The tank offered no comment whatsoever afterwards.

I can easily heal that fight through several vuln stacks, but for me part of the enjoyment of running dungeons is trying to run them perfectly - no vuln stacks taken, no deaths, and no buffs wasted because the boss was about to die when activating it. So you won't see me intentionally taking vuln stacks if I can avoid it.

I don't immediately recall any other times when someone has been worried about uptime in dungeons, so yeah, it's rare. But irrational anxieties are just that, irrational - they don't go away with reasoning.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

The other day I had a tank in Anamnesis Anyder who at the last boss said "we stay for the run mechanic". I'm not sure what exactly that was about but I strongly suspect it was to increase uptime. Things got a bit confusing and me (healer) and at least one DPS ended up running anyway. The tank offered no comment whatsoever afterwards.

I can easily heal that fight through several vuln stacks, but for me part of the enjoyment of running dungeons is trying to run them perfectly - no vuln stacks taken, no deaths, and no buffs wasted because the boss was about to die when activating it. So you won't see me intentionally taking vuln stacks if I can avoid it.

I don't immediately recall any other times when someone has been worried about uptime in dungeons, so yeah, it's rare. But irrational anxieties are just that, irrational - they don't go away with reasoning.

Its common in that dungeon and the Cosmos one, with the tethers, to not run from the boss. The bosses do so little damage and the vuln stacks dont matter, so bosses die faster.