I'm gonna say something unpopular: I don't like to rush.

[linayar]

Huh?
The bit about using defensive cooldowns wasn't even directed towards you and was just more a general sense on why people question why people are so bad or why its accepted.
Just pointed out the common things you see from bad players.


Though I do love how you always ignore my whole post just to point out one thing.
Just so you have something to say.


Now this WAS directed towards you.
You're ok with people pulling only single packs of mobs, which is why I said you're ok with people playing like garbage if you're so hell bent on thinking that's ok, when mobs hit like a wet noodle even when you're decently geared for said dgn.
Gonna say its fair to assume you tank like this, as I don't think "good" tanks would defend this sort of lazy play.
If you're playing a tank in a endgame dungeon or a dungeon WAY Past the ARR stages.
But I guess you want HoN to teach people how to pull a large mobs?

I didn't ignore your whole post as it just boils down to making a strawman argument, just like this one.

I think focusing on one mob in a pack is playing badly, but I disagree that pulling a single pack is playing badly.

[Vahlnir]

I think focusing on one mob in a pack is playing badly, but I disagree that pulling a single pack is playing badly.

Playing badly? I don't think so either. Playing optimally? Probably not, no. A lot of people prefer optimal play, myself included. Pulling everything you can and AoEing them all down is no doubt the best way. When I'm not tanking (which is actually pretty rare nowadays) and I'm playing as a dps...small pulls like that annoy me, but I also accept that not everyone is able to or is willing to pull wall to wall for whatever reasons they have. As much as it may annoy me, sometimes that is simply how it's going to play out.

[xxvaynxx]

I didn't ignore your whole post as it just boils down to making a strawman argument, just like this one.

I think focusing on one mob in a pack is playing badly, but I disagree that pulling a single pack is playing badly.

Can keep calling it strawman if you want if it makes you feel better, because I know you don't have anything else worth to say, single pack tank ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Did HoN teach how to use that word btw? (Hint in case you didn't catch on like my previous post. Since you take every as if it was directed towards you....HoN is bad)
If you have nothing else to add, other than defending bad play. Stop talking.

And no, single pack tanking is playing badly.
Are you going to pull wall to wall in full raid gear or are you going to pull one at a time?

Playing badly? I don't think so either. Playing optimally? Probably not, no. A lot of people prefer optimal play, myself included. Pulling everything you can and AoEing them all down is no doubt the best way. When I'm not tanking (which is actually pretty rare nowadays) and I'm playing as a dps...small pulls like that annoy me, but I also accept that not everyone is able to or is willing to pull wall to wall for whatever reasons they have. As much as it may annoy me, sometimes that is simply how it's going to play out.

I have to disagree.
Its just not playing optimally , its just not playing well at all. Aka Playing badly.
Unless you're under geared, you shouldn't be pulling that small knowing full well you're not going to die and how powerful healers heals are.
As someone said few pages back, if you're tanking less than what a Melee DPS can, you shouldn't be tanking.
I'm not gonna convince you but nobody can convince me its not bad play.

I'll let small pulls pass IF
the healer is trash or the tank gear is bad and in some cases though more rare than the former, if the dps is terrible.

[Vahlnir]

I'm not gonna convince you but nobody can convince me its not bad play.

Well, at least we agree on something.

[linayar]

Playing badly? I don't think so either. Playing optimally? Probably not, no. A lot of people prefer optimal play, myself included. Pulling everything you can and AoEing them all down is no doubt the best way. When I'm not tanking (which is actually pretty rare nowadays) and I'm playing as a dps...small pulls like that annoy me, but I also accept that not everyone is able to or is willing to pull wall to wall for whatever reasons they have. As much as it may annoy me, sometimes that is simply how it's going to play out.

I can agree with that. What I don't agree is labeling people who want to single pull as garbage.