Quote Originally Posted by Laesha View Post
I value method and manner, and it is on that premise that I am more likely to vote to dismiss the unsolicited advisor than anyone playing poorly. (snip) So not only do i associate unsolicited advice with bad manners and being rude, I also associate it with players who are really just talking to hear themselves talk.

And while we are on the topic of considering other players' time (which in my opinion is very ironic when it comes to this topic), I would rather work my way through a dungeon with a heal-bot (it can literally be a bot), than have some loudmouth start telling a healer to spam holy and have them get annoyed and quit, thus leaving me stuck in a party with an empty healer role that may not fill. Any time they could possibly have saved by taking the unsolicited advice is dwarfed dramatically by the additional time now required by the group to wait for a replacement, or worse, simply start over in a new q. I will always take quiet and smooth.
Really. You would kick someone for saying "Could you please AoE more, X? It will help make things go faster?" Or "Hey Tank, please put your tank stance on?" JFC who peed in your Cheerios?

I will share this story again. Was in a dungeon as a healer. Had 2 DPS, 1 was a BLM who ONLY used single target spells. Mind you, this was a lvl 55+ dungeon (Gubal Library IIRC). The other DPS just said "BLM please use your AoE spells" because the tank was pulling 2 packs. That's it. Nothing more. And you know what the BLM did? Acted like a child and used Fire2 ONCE, then went back to single target usage, as well as not rolling on any chests and complaining the whole time. Would you have kicked that other DPS (I think they were a NIN or something, can't recall) for asking the BLM to use AoEs? Would you have kicked the BLM for being rude and who knows, possibly trolling? Would you have left the party and taken the 30 min penalty? Or would you have just played through?

We kicked the BLM. Cause that one person was slowing down and affecting how the other 3 in the party wanted to play.

I've had people tell me to use Holy on big tank pulls. Honestly I didn't know why, but I did then asked why later as well as did some research. I think that is a big difference as well, people who want to learn and those who do what they want to do, spitting vitrol over advice and not caring about those other 3 people.

On topic, I hate such fancy words as elitism and casualism. Back in the day they used 'carebears'. Go figure. It's stupid and unneeded. Casual used to mean a person who didn't raid, played like less than 4 hours a week or something. I dunno. Prolly just rambling on right now. I need sugar lol