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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    which is how your supposed to do it

    problem is people want others to suffer because they cant manage their own anima


    and if they cant manage it, no one else should be allowed to do it either


    its the haves vs the have nots as usual
    Thanks for telling me something I didn't know about myself.

    Assuming people that want to remove the anima system can't manage it, and implying their stupidity is pretty presumptuous on your part.

    So, thanks for that. So helpful.

    If they added a 1shot-kill skill to the game, would you advocate for: "if you don't want to 1shot monster, you can kill things the normal way"? Because the anima debate is the same thing. Its easymode laziness on developers part that has become a staple of the game now. Saying "People can run if they dont like anima" isn't furthering the discussion.

    The anima system was just a developers shortcut for adding REAL transportation methods (because they rushed the game out) Now people are too attached to their easymode to let it go. Is the short of the story.

    Once real transportation methods are implemented, Anima needs to go.

    After reading this thread,
    I hope they remove it from 2.0 or at least change it to node-to-node teleport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    Thanks for telling me something I didn't know about myself.

    Assuming people that want to remove the anima system can't manage it, and implying their stupidity is pretty presumptuous on your part.

    So, thanks for that. So helpful.

    If they added a 1shot-kill skill to the game, would you advocate for: "if you don't want to 1shot monster, you can kill things the normal way"? Because the anima debate is the same thing. Its easymode laziness on developers part that had become a staple of the game now. Saying "People can run if they dont like anima" isn't furthering the discussion.

    The anima system was just a developers shortcut for adding REAL transportation methods. Now people are too attached to their easymode to let it go. Is the short of the story.

    Once real transportation methods are implemented, Anima needs to go.

    After reading this thread,
    I hope they remove it from 2.0 or at least change it to node-to-node teleport.

    It seem to ignore the obvious that it was planned to be in the game from the beginning.
    you just don't want to admit your fighting a losing battle. Encase you just want to ignore the
    first person that posted this. This verbiage has been on the FFXIV site for 2 years.

    Though the exact mechanism behind teleportation via aetheryte is still largely a mystery, one theory states that when a sentient being approaches one of the portals, the aether that makes up its body resonates with the aether of the crystals, which in turn results in a complete breakdown of the being's mass, allowing it to temporarily return to the invisible aetheric streams that course throughout the planet. The being's soul, which cannot be broken down, then guides the particles to a pre—determined destination, and upon arrival, the corresponding aetheryte receptacle reconfigures the mist back into its original form. This whole process takes only a matter of moments, allowing for nearly instant transportation to faraway destinations.

    However, being broken down to the aetheric level can take its toll on one's body, and rest is often required after several consecutive jumps, especially as the distance becomes greater. As a precaution, most city—states strongly discourage over—teleporting, as it can lead to irreversible damage...
    Anime has always been intended to be in this game. It's not going away, Deal with it.
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    You can't teleport everywhere. Sometimes you have to walk (or ride, at least). This is by design. Changes that would make it possible to teleport everywhere all the time are not going to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Haibel View Post
    It seem to ignore the obvious that it was planned to be in the game from the beginning.
    you just don't want to admit your fighting a losing battle. Encase you just want to ignore the
    first person that posted this. This verbiage has been on the FFXIV site for 2 years.



    Anime has always been intended to be in this game. It's not going away, Deal with it.


    Of course it was intended. Things that aren't intended don't get made and implemented. Devs don't just "Make stuff and implement it" then go "oops, we didn't mean to make that whole system and put it in the game"

    And as for "losing battle" it wasn't a battle to begin with. People seem to be getting pretty bent out of shape about even suggesting the removal of anima.

    So, if you are taking this discussion as a "battle" of "for or against" you are taking things far too seriously. I made this thread (if you read my OP) because I wanted to express my opinion and wanted others opinions on the subject.

    This is how adults discuss things.

    A lot of people read "remove anima" and basically went

    NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO ON

    /hands on ears

    NO NO NO NO

    You realize that's how you sound right?

    I am completely fine discussing why you would like to keep anima, but it's pretty childish how this discussion has gone lol.

    Intended or not, implemented or not, anything is ok to discuss. My opinion is to remove it, yours is to keep it. Lets remember that all of this is just opinions and yours is no more "correct" than mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    Thanks for telling me something I didn't know about myself.

    Assuming people that want to remove the anima system can't manage it, and implying their stupidity is pretty presumptuous on your part.

    So, thanks for that. So helpful.

    If they added a 1shot-kill skill to the game, would advocate "if you don't want to 1shot monster, you can kill things the normal way"? Because the anima debate is the same thing. Its easymode laziness on developers part that had become a staple of the game now. Saying "run if you want to, those who want to use it can, and those who don't can just not." isn't furthering the discussion.


    The anima system was just a developers shortcut for adding REAL transportation methods.

    Now people are too attached to their easymode to let it go.

    After reading this thread,
    I hope they remove it from 2.0 or at least change it to node-to-node teleport.
    The anima debate is not the same thing as a one shot kill. Apples and oranges.

    It doesn't easy mode the game. There's no easy or difficult aspect about wasting time. It's just wasting time. You do with what you want to with your time. Let others do what they want to with theirs.

    The "don't use anima if you don't want to." does work because you still have the option to explore and not use it. Your ideas exacerbate the problem by negating the resource mechanic, erasing the lore, and designating it to a "special" class.

    Anima doesn't keep you from exploring. It's a copout to continue a weak argument that has no basis when it has no bearing on difficulty or exploration. If you have something else that I haven't heard of or that hasn't already been posted in this thread feel free to provide something new but you haven't done so.

    Your statement on the motivations for including Anima in the first place are presumptuous as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    Thanks for telling me something I didn't know about myself.

    Assuming people that want to remove the anima system can't manage it, and implying their stupidity is pretty presumptuous on your part.

    So, thanks for that. So helpful.

    If they added a 1shot-kill skill to the game, would you advocate for: "if you don't want to 1shot monster, you can kill things the normal way"? Because the anima debate is the same thing. Its easymode laziness on developers part that has become a staple of the game now. Saying "People can run if they dont like anima" isn't furthering the discussion.

    The anima system was just a developers shortcut for adding REAL transportation methods (because they rushed the game out) Now people are too attached to their easymode to let it go. Is the short of the story.

    Once real transportation methods are implemented, Anima needs to go.

    After reading this thread,
    I hope they remove it from 2.0 or at least change it to node-to-node teleport.
    What you want, though, sounds easier than anima management ever will be. Teleport spells will be easy to obtain (as all abilities are) and, unless they come with a ridiculously high cooldown, will be even easier to use than current teleportation methods. Limiting it all to just one class or spreading them around across various classes won't really do anything but annoy people every once in a while.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhomagus View Post
    The anima debate is not the same thing as a one shot kill. Apples and oranges.

    It doesn't easy mode the game. There's no easy or difficult aspect about wasting time. It's just wasting time. You do with what you want to with your time. Let others do what they want to with theirs.
    /slowclap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    What you want, though, sounds easier than anima management ever will be. Teleport spells will be easy to obtain (as all abilities are) and, unless they come with a ridiculously high cooldown, will be even easier to use than current teleportation methods. Limiting it all to just one class or spreading them around across various classes won't really do anything but annoy people every once in a while.



    /slowclap
    It is easier.
    If anima exists, we can port anywhere, why not anytime?

    Why do we have to wait for a cooldown on anima?

    Hell if anima is here to stay, why cant I just port anytime, no restrictions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    It is easier.
    If anima exists, we can port anywhere, why not anytime? Why do we have to wait for a cooldown on anima?
    Then I'm completely confused on why you think anima is easymode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Answa View Post
    Then I'm completely confused on why you think anima is easymode.
    I'm playing devils advocate. (A lot is lost in text)

    Why not just uncap anima if its here to stay?

    Really.

    Why did SE put a cap on anima? And why does it recharge at a snails pace?

    If porting around is intended, anywhere, anytime, why am I restricted by a "regen" of it?

    Why is anima currently the "in between" of "no anima" and a "free porting system"

    Why are they forcing me to run sometimes? When I run out of my daily limit of "instant traveling"? Why is this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorMog View Post
    It is easier.
    If anima exists, we can port anywhere, why not anytime?

    Why do we have to wait for a cooldown on anima?

    Hell if anima is here to stay, why cant I just port anytime, no restrictions?
    im going right back to the arguement on this i had at launch

    lerts take your idea to the extreme and what will happen in case you can go anywhere any time no restrictions


    lets line up a row of portals in town to every location in the game

    portals straight to dungeons, straight to specific camps, hell, lets give people the ability to teleport right to any mob they want so they can fight it right away


    lets also line up all the gathering nodes 1 yard away from each other each, and make them permanent so people dont have to run between them either



    thats basicaly what you end up asking for when you ask for easier travel to a syste,m that is already extremely easy


    im sorry if you dont know how to manage your anima, or if you just flat out to refuse the lore behind it and want the system you want instead

    fact is, we have the system in place now, and its probably going to be here for a long time if not forever, so get used to it and stop bashing everyone who doesnt agree with you which you seem to be doing at this point

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