The Case for Spanish -- A Letter of Hope

[Mychael]

He's right. I'm from Argentina and 90% of people can't afford a computer to play FFXIV, more now with politics that fuck everything. In the last 2 month PS3 games went from 75 USD to 98 USD, so think how it goes with PC.

Also, i'm sorry, i know you can find people from south america here on forums and inside the game but you can count with 2 hands.

Also, i don't know if people know about the auto translate thing on FFXI. It went full because PS2 limitations and can't add more. IDK how it's the "PS3 limitations" for auto translate on FFXIV but if a spanish translation reduce it too much i'll be against too.

Yea, i'm sleepy, my english isn't good and it's really worst if i'm tired xD.

Annd, at least for me, what Bayohne said sounds like a no for me lol.

What really got me about his post was the "The Spanish-speaking people will slow down my patches/new content." That's just absurdly selfish, and they would hire translators just for that purpose. They wouldn't steal from the existing teams of coders and developers for another localisation team, and it wouldn't take these new Spanish lore writers/translators any longer than the other lore/loc teams to write the storyline for each patch. As someone else already posted, the localizations are written simultaneously--actually, Japanese probably comes first, and then the teams for EN, GE, and FR would get it at the same time. It would not be any longer.

Regarding South America not being able to afford computers, I don't know if that's relevant. In Spain alone, there are 46,754,784 people. That's not that much smaller than France's 65,312,249. I understand the point that while Spanish may have more native speakers, it has less eligible players, but I still think the translation would be profitable. Portugal has another 10+ million to add to the people that would choose Spanish (I realize Portugese is another language, but I think it's safe to assume that a Portugese speaker could understand Spanish at least better than English, French, or German).

Adding full support in Spanish would be considerably costly, and I can understand the aversion. At the very least, though, I don't think translated text for CSs will run SE's banks dry. Maybe this could even be an add-on after 2.0 that shows player-made translations? That wouldn't really cost SE anything.

[Answa]

He's right. I'm from Argentina and 90% of people can't afford a computer to play FFXIV, more now with politics that fuck everything. In the last 2 month PS3 games went from 75 USD to 98 USD, so think how it goes with PC.

Also, i'm sorry, i know you can find people from south america here on forums and inside the game but you can count with 2 hands.

Also, i don't know if people know about the auto translate thing on FFXI. It went full because PS2 limitations and can't add more. IDK how it's the "PS3 limitations" for auto translate on FFXIV but if a spanish translation reduce it too much i'll be against too.

Yea, i'm sleepy, my english isn't good and it's really worst if i'm tired xD.

Annd, at least for me, what Bayohne said sounds like a no for me lol.

You're just a constant downer, huh?

[vax]

You're just a constant downer, huh?

Yes, i like to think all the negative things over the positives first.

[Issachar]

What really got me about his post was the "The Spanish-speaking people will slow down my patches/new content." That's just absurdly selfish[...]

Anyways, I'm against the implementation of spanish if it'll result in localization of content and patches to be delayed.

IF

Learnt to read yet?...good. Now, see that magic word "IF"? I said I'd be against the additional language IF it were to conflict and delay localization. I never once assumed, by default, that it would. I'm just stating that I would vote against it if it came to it slowing the pace of patch releases.

Anyways, its funny how the friendly Argentinian guy, Vax, who actually lives in South America agreed with my post, yet the others are flaming me. I forgot that the official forums are full of hot-winded people who have to have things their way, no matter what. I mean, look at how you people address the localization and development teams sometimes. It's downright disrespectful.

Now stop being butthurt that someone doesn't agree with your petition :/

[Answa]

Funny how the friendly guy that actually lives in South America agreed with my post, yet the others are flaming me. I forgot that the official forums are full of hot-winded people who have to have things their way, no matter what. I mean, look at how you people address the localization and development teams sometimes. It's downright disrespectful.

What people are being disrespectful to the dev and loc teams? I missed this. Also, many people on this thread are also from South America and I haven't heard anything from them on this.

[Mychael]

Learnt to read yet?...good. Now, see that magic word "IF"? I said I'd be against the additional language IF it were to conflict and delay localization. I never once assumed, by default, that it would. I'm just stating that I would vote against it if it came to it slowing the pace of patch releases.

Which basically leads to the idea that either think:

1) People at SE work 9 jobs each on average, and creating a Spanish localization team would actually take ~20 people away from the various existing teams, or

2) Content is translated to each language one-at-a-time. Rather than make 3 copies of the Japanese content and allow the various localization teams to work simultaneously, they pass the Japanese script to the English team, who passes the script to the French team when they're done, and then to the DE team finally. OR, you could be under the impression that there is actually one incredible team of people who speak all four languages. In this case, they would have to work on one translation at a time, and they would have to stop content for a month or so to learn a fifth/sixth language.

My point is, I think you're smarter than to believe either of those. I think you knew that it was not an "If."

Anyways, its funny how the friendly Argentinian guy, Vax, who actually lives in South America agreed with my post, yet the others are flaming me. I forgot that the official forums are full of hot-winded people who have to have things their way, no matter what. I mean, look at how you people address the localization and development teams sometimes. It's downright disrespectful.

Argentinian guy? Are back to the "no girls on the internet" idea? Oh well, you may know something I don't. Then you go on to make more generalizations in this post. All people are different from you, and all people address the dev/loc teams wrongly. You are the only person who does it right. The rest of "us people" are ALL people who do it wrong.

Well played.

Now stop being butthurt that someone doesn't agree with your petition :/

My petition? I'm sorry, I didn't know you stalked me. But since you tried, I guess I'll tell you to work on your stalking skills.

I live here:


And have spoken English since I was born. I teach it to non-native speakers for the college I attend.

I wasn't involved in this until you were. I support it, but it doesn't involve me directly. You likely offended a lot of people (I would be offended if you called my country poor), and didn't really contribute anything to the conversation. It already had its dev post, people were just saying "Oh well, that means no..." or "Yay, there's still hope!"

Than you rolled in and said, basically, "I don't think this game should be translated if it slows down production [1) everyone said that this was not priority and, 2) like I said I doubt you're stupid enough to think it would]. SE couldn't profit from a Spanish translation because South America is too poor to run the game." Did that really contribute anything? No. Bye.

[Issachar]

What people are being disrespectful to the dev and loc teams? I missed this. Also, many people on this thread are also from South America and I haven't heard anything from them on this.

It's called demographics and market flow. As for the disrespect, I was generalizing most posters on the forum as a whole, because people throw hissy-fits when they don't get their way. People in this thread included

@Mychael

Quite a large post, for someone that missed the point entirely. And that little quip about sexism just shows you're pulling things out of where the sun doesn't shine for the sake of argument or to white-knight. Filtered.

Anyways, good luck with your petition. But localizing costs lots of time and money, so don't be surprised if it doesnt pan out. I hope, for the sake of my spanish-only friends, That they implement it eventually.

[Saga_Noah]

I read something like: "Hey look most of spanish talk people is answering in english"
Do you think if i speak in spanish the dev. team is going to translate it??
Anyway, the spanish is one of the most spoken language and i dont understand why is not translate it into this idiom. And i am not poor, and spanish people doesnt live only in South America or Spain. Some of my friends are living in England or Germany and they prefer to read in spanish than in Germany or english.

[vax]

Sorry for the necrobump but, please SE if you're going to translate FFXIV don't use the same translaters than on FFXIII-2, get new translaters. I like the game so far but there are 5000 grammaticals errors and a few severe problems and i only played the first chapter. It seems that the people who worked on translation got the game 5 days before the release and used google translate to finish it quickly.

[Rabntah]

I hope the game is translated to Spanish I support this appeal.
Not so common to understand English in Spain.

There are many Spanish-speaking communities that translate the game so others can understand.
I manage one of that sites, but the best for all would be to enjoy it playing.

So I think that would be much appreciated by our community.