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    Quote Originally Posted by MirronTulaxia View Post
    Again, you're making a subjective argument. I wouldn't call it any more similar than any other mage job myself. You're using your personal feelings as evidence for what should happen, and then balking at the same thing being done by someone else. If you're allowed to say they're too similar then I'm allowed to say they aren't. If you want to try and turn it into something objective then feel free, but if so then I'll go back to pointing out similarities to other jobs and quickly it'll turn into a subjective argument again. At the end of the day there isn't any objective reason that Geomancer would play the same as White Mage, that it would hit the same themes as White Mage, or any number of similar arguments. Subjectively you may feel it's the same, but ultimately you need to acknowledge that as simply personal feeling, no more or less valid than anyone else on the matter.
    You are correct when you tell people we don't know exactly how the class will play, but I am beginning to believe you have never actually done Swallow's Compass or Heaven on High, or the Astrologian quests. They have been adding Geomancer story and hints into the game for 4 years now (speaking like this is a 6.0 point of view). So unless they completely turned the Geomancer lore in the game on it's head, to put it into a role that is really already occupied, I don't see that happening. They have an established timeline of the class going from the Tengu to Ganen, you know the master swordsman and sorcerer who conquered the other tribes in Yanxia to unite them all and become king. He wasn't exactly known for his healing abilities that conquered Yanxia, hell to even the kami Seiryu. Who went from performing Geomatic miracles on his island in Ruby Sea to rising to be the diety of Geomancers on the main land, not exactly known for his healing capabilities. I guess you could imply that when Hien's father dispatched the groups of shinobi and geomancers to the moon gates during the garlean invasion where they brought the ships down using wind magic, that we could be mistaking that story for them healing the ships down.

    Back in 1.0 they already had it planned as the dps counterpart for white mage, it's not really a stretch to think they would continue you that thinking. Especially with the overhaul of ARR, and the starter classes eventually going to be deleted as well.

    No one is arguing that white mage and geo would play the same, but they fit a similar fantasy in this game that would be lazy to have them in the same role. That's why no one has issues with the talk of Xaela Shaman with their healing touch in the story/lore, because it doesn't infringe on the fantasy of the class. The only way to really keep Geomancer in the game with a strong enough identity would to make it a caster. Which you'll come back with something about subjective, assuming, etc, but I mean... I can buy you the lore book or run you though Swallow's Compass or the Seiryu fight if you really would like to take a look at some things.

    I feel like yo are arguing just to argue, you keep bringing up Ast npcs in Coerthas needing to be changed because they had no cast animations, class identity, were in zero dungeons, no quests, no story, no interaction and comparing them to something that we have been getting info for since 4.0. You also keep bringing up the release date of red mage when all I said was that I don't need you to mansplain what a red mage is to me when I have been playing as one since 2006. I know what the class is, I promise I got it, the theme around the class hasn't changed ever since the release of it as a class in ANY game.
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    Last edited by BasicBlake; 06-02-2020 at 01:01 AM.

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