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  1. #121
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    Kathleen Noir
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    I didn't see any mention overthrowing the current residents. Down with the bourgeoisie! Unite our banners together and cast them out!
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  2. #122
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by KathleenNoir View Post
    I didn't see any mention overthrowing the current residents. Down with the bourgeoisie! Unite our banners together and cast them out!
    With the exception of a few mega abusive house hoarders (who shall go unnamed they really don't need to take away houses, just modify the existing rules to better deal with the real problem--fake FCs and harsh restrictions on apartments and even houses in general. Imagine a game where an FC could have an option to allow non-FC members to use their equipment such as crafting stations, stables, vendors, and even be able to buy rooms. How would that affect the game's ability to socialize. Houses could be more than just eye candy for random players.
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  3. #123
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    EthanXdeath's Avatar
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    Ethan Targaryen
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    Gilgamesh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    With the exception of a few mega abusive house hoarders (who shall go unnamed they really don't need to take away houses, just modify the existing rules to better deal with the real problem--fake FCs and harsh restrictions on apartments and even houses in general. Imagine a game where an FC could have an option to allow non-FC members to use their equipment such as crafting stations, stables, vendors, and even be able to buy rooms. How would that affect the game's ability to socialize. Houses could be more than just eye candy for random players.
    Could not agree more.
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  4. #124
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    Waffles298's Avatar
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    Waffles O'malley
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    Ultros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Not going to work for players on NA servers. Here's a quick census I just did for Crystal. Keep in mind that Crystal has most of the lowest pop NA servers with the exception of Siren,

    Balmung - no houses available

    Brynhildr - no houses available

    Coeurl - no houses available

    Diabolos - One newly relinquished small plot in Goblet

    Goblin - no houses available

    Malboro - no houses available

    Mateus - One newly relinquished small plot in Goblet

    Zalera - no houses available

    Keep in mind it's 5am Eastern and 2am Pacific in NA right now. One person was camping the Diabolos house and a second person showed up as I finished typing this post (good luck!). The Mateus house has 11 players camping it, nine of them with status set to Busy so other players can't screw with their placard spam (maybe the other two are just trying to screw with them?).

    You'll see this repeated across all NA data centers. This isn't EU or JP where average population per server is smaller and houses are available on at least one if not more worlds in a data center. Here houses have been at a premium since June of last year. The addition of new wards in 5.1 helped a little but those were essentially filled even before the personal purchase moratorium was removed in 5.2 and completely filled the day it was removed.

    People can't just switch to a different world in the same NA data center here to get a house.
    just chiming in, NA player on primal. on Ultros alone we've had completely full wards for a good long while. the new wards they added with 5.1 were completely bought out by FCs and player relocations within a few hours of the servers going live, and the vacant plots they left behind refilled in a couple days. when a new ward is opened up with an update you pretty much need to be one of the lucky few to get into the game, onto the server, and either buy an fc plot or relocate within the first 5-20 minutes of the servers going live or your not getting a house.
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  5. #125
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    Ethan Targaryen
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    Gilgamesh
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    I think there are 3 solutions to housing in terms of available plots.

    1. In game process that adds more wards automatically depending on active players.

    2. Add more worlds, atm according to Lucky Banco Census 2 new worlds to every current datacenter I.E. Aether gets 2 new worlds/servers, Crystal gets 2 new worlds/servers, Primal gets 2 new worlds/servers.

    3. Instanced housing - although this goes against what Yoshi P has said in the past about housing feeling like a neighborhood of people.
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  6. #126
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Quote Originally Posted by EthanXdeath View Post
    2. Add more worlds, atm according to Lucky Banco Census 2 new worlds to every current datacenter I.E. Aether gets 2 new worlds/servers, Crystal gets 2 new worlds/servers, Primal gets 2 new worlds/servers.
    They've said in the past that the first is not possible with the way housing is programmed.

    They're unlikely to add new worlds to NA data centers when so many NA players complain that their worlds feel dead because they think the active population is too low. This is despite only a few worlds outside of NA having more active players than our lowest pop world.

    As for what was said in the past, things change once developers see how players approach the content once they have access. Pick a ward at random and unless you've picked one with a few large FCs with active members constantly coming and going, you're not going to feel like you're in a neighborhood of people. You're going to feel like you're in a recently abandoned neighborhood. Wards may have been a nice idea but they're not working well in practice.
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  7. #127
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    They've said in the past that the first is not possible with the way housing is programmed.

    They're unlikely to add new worlds to NA data centers when so many NA players complain that their worlds feel dead because they think the active population is too low. This is despite only a few worlds outside of NA having more active players than our lowest pop world.

    As for what was said in the past, things change once developers see how players approach the content once they have access. Pick a ward at random and unless you've picked one with a few large FCs with active members constantly coming and going, you're not going to feel like you're in a neighborhood of people. You're going to feel like you're in a recently abandoned neighborhood. Wards may have been a nice idea but they're not working well in practice.
    That's why they need to modify the FC homeowner standaaaaaaards! And more wards would be helpful to servers that are as stuffed as the NA ones seem to perpetually be, even if it's just a bit.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    That's why they need to modify the FC homeowner standaaaaaaards! And more wards would be helpful to servers that are as stuffed as the NA ones seem to perpetually be, even if it's just a bit.
    I forgot when it was mentioned but I believe they have stated they either cannot or do not like to add wards to only certain servers. So would have be via new servers, and adding mew servers to NA may thin out the player perception on health of a data center.

    They did have the 1 fc house and 1 personal house in effect for a little but the removed the FC restriction. So clearly they had a reason to do so. Also no amount of standards for FC's that people would find reasonable would not be difficult to achieve for single FC owners. As a single FC owner with many plots it would take a lot for me to not consider going through the trouble since the pay off is worth it imo.
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  9. #129
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    Reih'l Moshah
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    Oh boy, seeing this whole thread made me hopeless of having a home for my FC anytime soon, was thinking that this kind of problem only existed on the most pop servers like Gilga, but i was wrong..

    Have tried 5 times on past three weeks, the third one was really exhausting, i took it from 4pm to 3am and i had to stop it because I couldn't take it anymore...Slept for three hours and when I came back, it was bought, my only hope that remains is the Ishigard's residential areas but as far as i know, it is not known when they will be available
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cthulhu_Jazz View Post
    Oh boy, seeing this whole thread made me hopeless of having a home for my FC anytime soon, was thinking that this kind of problem only existed on the most pop servers like Gilga, but i was wrong..

    Have tried 5 times on past three weeks, the third one was really exhausting, i took it from 4pm to 3am and i had to stop it because I couldn't take it anymore...Slept for three hours and when I came back, it was bought, my only hope that remains is the Ishigard's residential areas but as far as i know, it is not known when they will be available
    Never give up, keep it up and when you least expect it you will get a plot. The hardest part is getting your first plot, after that it becomes much easier.
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