Getting a New House Feels Impossible

[Gula]

"The devs don't care" is not legitimate criticism. That's a child throwing a temper tantrum because they aren't happy with the toy mommy and daddy gave them. "You don't love me, you don't care or you'd give me what I want instead of what you gave me." -biggest snip-

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This is it.

I wholly understand what it is like to have something added that is not what you want. But they are looking at the playerbase as a whole. Square Enix is a business and Yoshida's job is to keep that company going. He has acknowledged how amazing housing can be and would love to play more with players. But he can't, and when he is able to, there are additions that work as a compromise between the players, and the company.

One cannot come before the other, and yes it would make a lot of players happy to have instanced housing and 500/500 slots regardless of housing size, that would set back features and future plans even further and they can't pull another Bahamut to put the game on pause and rebuild again out of the blue.

[WorstOne]

the plot i found was taken, the person AFK in front of the plot for more than 16H,,
i slept and wake up and he was still standing there, it was still not purchasable and i still didn't get the plot,,
also how do we report people who are selling plots for higher margin?? people are asking for insane amounts (e.g. i found someone in discord selling Small plot for 15mill) and if i am not wrong this is more than what the game rate is,, so how do we report them ??

[Gula]

the plot i found was taken, the person AFK in front of the plot for more than 16H,,
i slept and wake up and he was still standing there, it was still not purchasable and i still didn't get the plot,,
also how do we report people who are selling plots for higher margin?? people are asking for insane amounts (e.g. i found someone in discord selling Small plot for 15mill) and if i am not wrong this is more than what the game rate is,, so how do we report them ??

Unless they literally say so in game, you can't. It's like admitting to using mods in a chatroom separate from XIV. That is not viable proof nor will GMs accept discord evidence because it's like trying to report someone for a local crime in another country.

[Madbunny]

This would alleviate some of the toxicity and bad feelings within the community surrounding this issue. This is a resource that people are willing to forgo sleep, and daily functions to camp on. We need some relief for all of these people. It is clearly and demonstrably a breading ground for toxicity.

Sorry but if you put ingame things in front of anything in RL then you are toxic to yourself. Sooner the person realize that it will be better for him/her.
First step to solve this problem would be heavy ban-hammer on all bots regardless what they do and implement an algorithm what would put a "red flag" on every character who gain more than X amount of money for a manual (admin) check. Even if they try to transfer that money over MP. If admin finds out that there was a transaction for the sole purpose to sell the house then both players should be banned and the plot free for anyone to grab.

[Dizzyteacup]

Sorry but if you put ingame things in front of anything in RL then you are toxic to yourself. Sooner the person realize that it will be better for him/her.

This is absolutely true. However I don’t think any player truly wants to put their housing purchase on such an ungodly pedestal. That is exactly why we are all crying out. These are not toxic people who don’t value their health coming into the housing market. These are normal every day players who just want a house and are being driven to unhealthy, toxic extremes to get one because of the housing system.

And the system is only rewarding right now to people who are willing to go to those extremes. A normal player who values their health and goes to bed at normal hours or wants to avoid strain on their wrist cannot hope to obtain a house.

[Losara]

On a random note, I have been playing Fallout 76 after the Wastelanders update has been released. The CAMP (Housing) system where the player can place a camp site down anywhere that hasn't been claimed is really appealing. The house itself is created on the spot at the time you log into the server and if someone has claimed the same spot before you logged on it will alert you that your house can't be placed down and you can move it to another location free if you choose.

It might be good for FFXIV to move away from the idea of housing wards and start making more instanced housing available in different locations that don't get much use apart from maybe hunts e.g. imagine allowing people to set up housing in zones like Azim Steppes and if someone has claimed the spot before you've logged on you can just move your instanced house to another location instantly. This would be amazing.

I think its time Eorzea thinks about 'hot desking' cause there will never be enough houses for everyone.

[hakurou46]

I've got a friend who spent her entire day tapping away at a placard hoping to buy a house for their FC, and just had to log out because she just couldn't stand it anymore (and it's getting late).
Like, stories like these aren't rare, either. I can only assume sqex either can't come up with a functional system (which sounds absolutely impossible, if it isn't the case that all their systems designers have been fired), or think this is actually good enough: that players either should literally be sacrificing their health in order to get a house, or have to just try every plot available, every time they swing by a housing ward, and maybe they'll luck out sometime within, maybe, a year?

Like, even I can think of a better system in half a minute if you told me to. Small houses are around three million gil, right? Go up to a plot, pay the gil as a deposit, start a timer. Other players also interested in said plot? They can throw in three million of their own gil. 72 hours later, house gets sold to a random person who put money down, everyone else gets the money back through moogle mail.

[Numenor1379]

the plot i found was taken, the person AFK in front of the plot for more than 16H,,
i slept and wake up and he was still standing there, it was still not purchasable and i still didn't get the plot,,
also how do we report people who are selling plots for higher margin?? people are asking for insane amounts (e.g. i found someone in discord selling Small plot for 15mill) and if i am not wrong this is more than what the game rate is,, so how do we report them ??

What's wrong with selling an asset you have in-game for in-game currency? If someone wishes to pay what the seller is asking, good for them.

[hakurou46]

The issue is that the current system was put in place *specifically* to combat people scalping plots to re-sell for higher prices.

[Numenor1379]

The issue is that the current system was put in place *specifically* to combat people scalping plots to re-sell for higher prices.

No. It was put in place to prevent ultra-rich players from buying 20-30 houses each, to then flip at an inflated price.

It was never to prevent the individual homeowner from selling their singular plot if they wished.