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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    I dont understand the clunkyness argument for nascent flash anyway, its not like warriors have loads of off globals they need to use and its also not like targetting someone else is particularly hard.
    I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
    You will not do it without clipping.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 05-23-2020 at 06:00 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
    You will not do it without clipping.
    I do that and trained to do that ever back since Sigmascape with Cover. It is possible without clipping, but without macros it requires a fair bit of practice. Me having background from FPS games so having naturally trained accuracy with a pointer helped a lot though.

    Humbly speaking, I don't wish anyone having to go through this just to utliize WAR's best HP recovery tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
    You will not do it without clipping.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplw...ature=youtu.be

    okay, heres my attempt with basically no practice and way too high skillspeed. Pretty sure theres basically no clipping there, whats your point exactly?
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    Last edited by ReiMakoto; 05-23-2020 at 06:46 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sqwall View Post
    BUTTTT when i'm in a dungeon or MT a raid it is so much more beneficial to pop Raw Intuition. Outside of AOE pulls it's pretty much meh. If I'm off tank then yeah it's great, but won't save me in a dire need moment if I have to target someone low on HP that's in range.
    Nope, that's completely wrong. In pretty much every situation you'll be able to heal more HP with Nascent than you'll mitigate with Raw Intuition.



    You're not taking a 150k+ tankbuster every 25s to outweigh an average 28k healing. Properly using NF lets you go a long time without needing heals from a healer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReiMakoto View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nplw...ature=youtu.be

    okay, heres my attempt with basically no practice and way too high skillspeed. Pretty sure theres basically no clipping there, whats your point exactly?
    Now do it mid rotation in an actual savage fight lul. /sarcasm
    To say it is without practice would be underpresenting your initial experience with the game and controls, but the average player wanting to improve will likely stumble at exactly that hurdle, particularly in the way you did it on controller.

    Because of such complications players opt to macro it, which comes with the basic clunk that macros provide by not letting you queue an action. None of this is taking into account if they wanted to use it for lifesteal or targetted mitigation, yet they have to jump through the same hurdle regardless of player intention.
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    NF confuses me, do I use it on a party member to heal them even if I'm at full health or do I use it when me and them need health?

    Plus does how much dmg I do while it's on give more health to me or party member?
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    NF confuses me, do I use it on a party member to heal them even if I'm at full health or do I use it when me and them need health?

    Plus does how much dmg I do while it's on give more health to me or party member?
    Just use it whenever. The only rule you should follow, which isn't that hard to follow, is to always NF with Upheaval. This means you're not exactly using NF on cooldown, but close to it since NF is on a 25 sec CD and Upheaval's at a 30 second CD.

    You can also use NF paired with infuriate and IC for healing after tank busters, but chances are your healers were going to intervene there anyways.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    Just use it whenever. The only rule you should follow, which isn't that hard to follow, is to always NF with Upheaval. This means you're not exactly using NF on cooldown, but close to it since NF is on a 25 sec CD and Upheaval's at a 30 second CD.

    You can also use NF paired with infuriate and IC for healing after tank busters, but chances are your healers were going to intervene there anyways.
    Ty for the tips hierro, that'll help me out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
    You will not do it without clipping.
    And ty nedkel for solving for me what ic meant, I wasn't aware it meant inner chaos till I read your post, whether u knew it or not, u typing out the words inner chaos helped me to understand the tips hierro gave me more clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I want you to change into warrior and try to execute this: any GCD > Infuriate > nascent flash > inner chaos
    You will not do it without clipping.
    If it's gonna clipped from doubleweave, you can just GCD> Infuriate> GCD> Nascent flash> Inner chaos.
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