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  1. #71
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xSelene View Post
    "9. Healer glamour compared to other roles is double standards
    Other roles have various amounts of cloth and armour options of multiple amounts from full tunics and plate to cloth, to hardly anything at all
    Healers are continuously stuck with robes, shawls or a couple of wraps. Ignoring the fact that male healers are a thing, why can't we have some proper armour sets instead of cloth for once? Imagine a scholar in plate alongside his warrior allies like the lore, or a white mage in a gambison and chain mail wandering the land to bring succor.
    Ask and ye shall receive.

    (0)
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  2. #72
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    Cled-cat's Avatar
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    Cledwyn Llywellyn
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    God I miss maining a healer back in ARR and HW. The combat medic play style was so enjoyable as it felt super rewarding to master the toolkits and pump out great damage as a reward. How far healers have fallen, shame on you devs for ruining healing so much!

    Oh and GIVE US AERO 3 BACK YOU SAVAGES
    (8)

  3. #73
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    FoxCh40s's Avatar
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    Character
    Source Eldion
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cled-cat View Post
    God I miss maining a healer back in ARR and HW. The combat medic play style was so enjoyable as it felt super rewarding to master the toolkits and pump out great damage as a reward. How far healers have fallen, shame on you devs for ruining healing so much!

    Oh and GIVE US AERO 3 BACK YOU SAVAGES
    I mean, I miss HW Scholar the most. God.... such a perfect job (not you dissipation).
    (7)

  4. #74
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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by FoxCh40s View Post
    I mean, I miss HW Scholar the most. God.... such a perfect job (not you dissipation).
    I would say the same for SB AST (not you Nocturnal Sect)
    (5)
    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

  5. #75
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    LalafellDown's Avatar
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    Character
    Ultima Ultima
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    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    I personally enjoyed this patch healing. It’s really fast paced. Pulling all the adds and burning them down while keeping the tank alive is a rush.
    (0)

  6. #76
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    Recon1o6's Avatar
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    Character
    Avarnia Corthal
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 90
    I miss HW and SB astrologian (hw offence and sb cards and buffs)
    2.0 and some of 3.0 WHM
    Scholar sadly I can't give an answer to, but I think anything before shb hit. I didn't play much as it wasn't for me, but I always appreciated a well played scholar co healer

    how long ago did I last play smn/sch? well when I swapped to level up arcanist to 30 from 26...I found I had heavensward aetherflow still on there alongside our old friends blizzard 2, protect and stoneskin


    It was extremely painful levelling it up to 30 so I could get some more inventory space. Not just because the pet destruction was so deadly. I haven't removed them off my hotbar, I have just placed them on the L2 bar since we don't have proper skillsets anymore until 70 ish
    (1)

  7. #77
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    I personally enjoyed this patch healing. It’s really fast paced. Pulling all the adds and burning them down while keeping the tank alive is a rush.
    Ok, now what do you do on bosses 70% of the time? 21111111111112

    If you're happy with that, good for you. That's fine. But many of us simply aren't.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  8. #78
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    TyrTry's Avatar
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    Tyr Gowind
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Ok, now what do you do on bosses 70% of the time? 21111111111112

    If you're happy with that, good for you. That's fine. But many of us simply aren't.
    I hadn't realized just how bad it was until I decided to pick up AST. I spent most of my healing as a WHM and although extremely tedious, I didn't really mind Stoning things to death. However, I think I was given fair warning when an FC member stated in chat that they were doing the current relic quest...as AST.

    "I screwed up."

    "What happened?"

    "I'm doing this as AST."

    FC: "Oooooooooooohhhh"

    I picked back up AST just a couple of days ago and now understand what they meant. I constantly feel as if I'm playing Blackjack with no chance to win 21 anytime I play solo content; not to mention the lack of DPS abilities typically leading to card fart attack that leaves a DoT.
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  9. #79
    Player
    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by TyrTry View Post
    I hadn't realized just how bad it was until I decided to pick up AST. I spent most of my healing as a WHM and although extremely tedious, I didn't really mind Stoning things to death. However, I think I was given fair warning when an FC member stated in chat that they were doing the current relic quest...as AST.

    "I screwed up."

    "What happened?"

    "I'm doing this as AST."

    FC: "Oooooooooooohhhh"

    I picked back up AST just a couple of days ago and now understand what they meant. I constantly feel as if I'm playing Blackjack with no chance to win 21 anytime I play solo content; not to mention the lack of DPS abilities typically leading to card fart attack that leaves a DoT.
    The really sad part is SE, for some unknown reason, decided that AST was the DPS model they wanted all healers to emulate. SCH were very complex in the DPS department, WHM was decently complex and then there was AST.

    I know career Astrologians. They wouldn't have wished their Pre-Shadowbringer DPS rotation on ANYONE. Yet somehow the SE healer designer thought this was the pinnacle of healer DPS play.
    (14)
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  10. #80
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    SieyaM's Avatar
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    Sieya Mizuno
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Healers do seem to be largely ignored by the dev team, I doubt anyone on the team really plays a healer consistently. I would love another direction in gear design rather than the standard voluminous robes or strangely designed academic gear healers normally get, but not sure that full suit armor is the direction to take it. Glamour issues are really the bottom of the list though, and to be honest if healers were engaging and fun to play people probably wouldn't be very worried about their glamour anyway.I am curious to see how the new expansion plays out with healers, but also pretty sure they are going to not only leave the current ones as they are but also not add a new one citing balance issues again.
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