A summary of healer issues

[CrimsonGunner]

Honestly it is frustrating how SE thinks healers MUST be disciple of magic and it will only restrict them with further healing jobs.

i think they are forgetting that healing magic includes support not just pure healing, i mean its the rule in both games and anime...(not just other ff games)

[Deceptus]

Honestly it is frustrating how SE thinks healers MUST be disciple of magic and it will only restrict them with further healing jobs.

SWTOR shows that you don't have to have a magic healing class (Scoundrel).

[Sebazy]

Scoundrel is a great example I always forget about.

I'll add warrior priest to that list as well. A melee centric healer that was an absolute blast to play.

[Liam_Harper]

Honestly it is frustrating how SE thinks healers MUST be disciple of magic and it will only restrict them with further healing jobs.

I think the biggest problem is lack of creativity and playing too safe. They admitted they gave up on Chemist because they weren't able to think of a working design for a non-magic healer. Since they don't even have a healer designer, there's no room to think outside the box and be imaginative. This is why even Sage is a semi-SCH clone with a fancy coat of paint and it's sort of sad to see some players lapping it up and claiming it's entirely different.

[ToodlesElNoodles]

Though, I always imagined that the CHM could’ve been an Allagan based class that uses aetherochemistry for heavy buffing. I’m just wondering what Japanese pop-culture it could be based on (considering RPR is Bloodborne and SGE is Gundam, I feel like looking at pop-culture could be a pretty strong indicator on what the dev team might work on next).

A melee centric healer that was an absolute blast to play.

Are FF14 healers ready to accept a melee healer? I looked up past forum posts on the topic and...it was not pretty.

[Semirhage]

I'd rather the existing healers not be flaming garbage before we start in on wacky design spaces like melee healing. Nevermind the fact that Square's encounter design up to now presupposes that all healers are ranged. What would a melee healer do during Searing Wind? /dance?

[Doragan]

I'd rather the existing healers not be flaming garbage before we start in on wacky design spaces like melee healing.

I don't necessarily think a melee healer would be wack, though. I think it would be a bit tricky to implement entirely melee-based healing actions, but I don't think it would be out of this realm if it was most of their DPS actions that would be melee while their healing actions be casts,just like the other healer jobs.

After all, we do have RDM having a melee combo and dashes using weaponskills, PLD can use Holy Spirit spells ranged, a boatload of DRK actions are spells. I think a weaponskill-user healer job would be pretty cool. It would be some risk-taking coming from the dev team regarding healers. It would be pretty exciting,even if it ends up failing.

If they are DoT-based, most of their uptime could come from that,too,to compensate moving away from the target if they need to heal,during mechanics. Kinda like booksmacking during ARR/HW I guess.

On another note,I'm legitimately surprised there isn't any kind of weaponskill on healers entirely,even ranged. Ah well.

What would a melee healer do during Searing Wind? /dance?

If they could refresh their dots from a distance, I don't think it would be that much of a problem.

[Reiryuu]

SWTOR shows that you don't have to have a magic healing class (Scoundrel).

Doesn't overwatch have a champion (Ana?) that heals with a sniper rifle, too?

[GrimGale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82timvwEUHo

TEA Solo heal WHM

Honestly I am progging TEA at the moment as a SCH with a WHM partner. I feel extremely redundant now. My role is a commodity rather than a necessity.

[Saefinn]

Are FF14 healers ready to accept a melee healer? I looked up past forum posts on the topic and...it was not pretty.

A shame because DNC was seen as the potential for such a concept and I know I was digging it (but I still love what we got anyway). FFXI DNC was a melee job that could tank, DPS and heal and most of the speculations for an FFXIV DNC went to the healing aspect. It even used TP to heal. Though you'd not normally have it as a main healer, though I have been in a couple of parties where it was. And our static leader would tank with it sometimes.

I think similar concepts could be FFXIV-ified and kinda cool, but unlikely...especially as I sincerely doubt we'd get another healer.