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  1. #1
    Player
    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Eye View Post
    Squeenix is creating a new heal job for 6.0.. they couldn't give it a complete toolkit without first robbing other healers of some of the stuff that made them special. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new healer is a time mage, complete with every time element they stole from Astro.

    Ah yea, the new healer will be Chronomancer, a Geomancer that also dabbles into the art time manipulation with a bit of arcanism on the side, with a skillset consisting of

    • Water, Wind and Earth offensive spells, one being a AoE DoT
    • Healing spells that work by reversing time
    • A CD that extends the duration of buffs by 15 seconds
    • A stun with the flavor of stopping mobs in time
    • A DoT terrain called Shadow Flare
    • A MP regen button SEPARATE from Lucid Dreaming
    • A summon pet that "conveniently" has tools for removing debuffs, increasing Spell/Skill Speed and extending the duration of DoTs
    • And a LB3 that involves around dancing on the illusory corpses of a White Mage, Scholar and Astrologian.
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    EaMett's Avatar
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    Ea Sin
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Ah yea, the new healer will be Chronomancer, a Geomancer that also dabbles into the art time manipulation with a bit of arcanism on the side, with a skillset consisting of

    • Water, Wind and Earth offensive spells, one being a AoE DoT
    • Healing spells that work by reversing time
    • A CD that extends the duration of buffs by 15 seconds
    • A stun with the flavor of stopping mobs in time
    • A DoT terrain called Shadow Flare
    • A MP regen button SEPARATE from Lucid Dreaming
    • A summon pet that "conveniently" has tools for removing debuffs, increasing Spell/Skill Speed and extending the duration of DoTs
    • And a LB3 that involves around dancing on the illusory corpses of a White Mage, Scholar and Astrologian.
    Don't forget a shield called stoneskin.
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    Ceasaria's Avatar
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    Ceasaria Pheonixia
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Ah yea, the new healer will be Chronomancer, a Geomancer that also dabbles into the art time manipulation with a bit of arcanism on the side, with a skillset consisting of

    • Water, Wind and Earth offensive spells, one being a AoE DoT
    • Healing spells that work by reversing time
    • A CD that extends the duration of buffs by 15 seconds
    • A stun with the flavor of stopping mobs in time
    • A DoT terrain called Shadow Flare
    • A MP regen button SEPARATE from Lucid Dreaming
    • A summon pet that "conveniently" has tools for removing debuffs, increasing Spell/Skill Speed and extending the duration of DoTs
    • And a LB3 that involves around dancing on the illusory corpses of a White Mage, Scholar and Astrologian.
    Would be very funny at first if SE do this.
    Don't forget Fluid Aura from WHM and previous cards effects of AST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
    Quote Originally Posted by MitsukiKimura View Post
    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Side-Eye View Post
    Squeenix is creating a new heal job for 6.0.. they couldn't give it a complete toolkit without first robbing other healers of some of the stuff that made them special. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the new healer is a time mage, complete with every time element they stole from Astro.
    Meanwhile, everyone else will be on iteration 6.0 and we'll be on 2.0 because we had to start from scratch.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Allegor's Avatar
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    Red Rider
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    Hyperion
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    Whm has always been the simpler healer when compared to Sch/Ast but it used to have a lot more going on for it and why I enjoyed playing whm in ARR even if was a Sch main during that time.

    Stoneskin being removed, removed the mitigation aspect of whm right out of it, now have a 30s cd which just doesn't offer the preventive playstyle in the same capacity Whm used to.

    Enmity is a goddamn joke now, out of all healers i found that enmity was most problematic for whm, but this was good, gave Whms something else to pay attention to and while enmity was a tank mechanic it gave Whm something more to do than just hp numbers, aggro dumps were very much appreciated on whm, when enmity was streamlined to oblivion it hurt whm on top of tanks.

    Mp management is an out right joke on everyone except Noct Ast now and even Noct Ast is fine until deaths happen.

    Cross class actions gone, no blizzard II means no low level aoe or low aoe mp cost to spam, no virus, a fair few of current role actions are whm old skills that were unnecessarily ripped from them.

    Debuffs reduced to nigh nothing, fluid aura no longer knockback + dmg + bind just bind, stone's heavy gone, sleep cross role and decided 1 quest justifies this decision, still got stun but for how long until decide that is too much debuffing.

    Just stop SE, just stop, whm, healers, have been stripped down enough anymore and we'll just see bones.
    I still lowkey think Thin Air will become a role action, but if they remove Holy's stun I think every single WHM in the game will riot. It'd be an objectively bad move.

    Also I only recently started leveling BLM and found out their Sleep is aoe, unlike Repose. So as niche and situational as it is, the one job that has near to no utility has better cc utility than actual healers, wow.
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    Last edited by Allegor; 05-19-2020 at 03:13 AM.

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    JazihStar's Avatar
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    Ja'zih Star
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    Moogle
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    so many amazing posts here hopefully SE sees this. My memory isnt the best but what do each of the healer classes mainly use lore how far off the story path have they gone be interesting to see this side of the healer situation
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    xSelene's Avatar
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    Ion Magus
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    Phoenix
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    "9. Healer glamour compared to other roles is double standards
    Other roles have various amounts of cloth and armour options of multiple amounts from full tunics and plate to cloth, to hardly anything at all
    Healers are continuously stuck with robes, shawls or a couple of wraps. Ignoring the fact that male healers are a thing, why can't we have some proper armour sets instead of cloth for once? Imagine a scholar in plate alongside his warrior allies like the lore, or a white mage in a gambison and chain mail wandering the land to bring succor.
    Many options that other roles get but we healers are constantly getting the short stick from"


    The Reason I farmed the new PVP Healer Gear...I was so fed up with those Robes
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by xSelene View Post
    "9. Healer glamour compared to other roles is double standards
    Other roles have various amounts of cloth and armour options of multiple amounts from full tunics and plate to cloth, to hardly anything at all
    Healers are continuously stuck with robes, shawls or a couple of wraps. Ignoring the fact that male healers are a thing, why can't we have some proper armour sets instead of cloth for once? Imagine a scholar in plate alongside his warrior allies like the lore, or a white mage in a gambison and chain mail wandering the land to bring succor.
    Ask and ye shall receive.

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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Cled-cat's Avatar
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    Cledwyn Llywellyn
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    Omega
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 100
    God I miss maining a healer back in ARR and HW. The combat medic play style was so enjoyable as it felt super rewarding to master the toolkits and pump out great damage as a reward. How far healers have fallen, shame on you devs for ruining healing so much!

    Oh and GIVE US AERO 3 BACK YOU SAVAGES
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    FoxCh40s's Avatar
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    Source Eldion
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cled-cat View Post
    God I miss maining a healer back in ARR and HW. The combat medic play style was so enjoyable as it felt super rewarding to master the toolkits and pump out great damage as a reward. How far healers have fallen, shame on you devs for ruining healing so much!

    Oh and GIVE US AERO 3 BACK YOU SAVAGES
    I mean, I miss HW Scholar the most. God.... such a perfect job (not you dissipation).
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