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  1. #2221
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    I don't care about the option because it's not going to happen.
    .... Not the point, most already conceded that the likelihood of this feature happening is very slim...

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    t what other people do doesn't matter to me or control me so much that I need to shut it or them out for my enjoyment. And if it did I have options like I just mentioned. You have those same options. We all have those options. Why ask SE for something we have control of.

    Hell you can make PF for people to not join you with silly glams. People do it with jobs, RP, whatever already anyway. That's all I'm saying when I say we all have those options.
    Then why argue against it? Thanks for confirming the bias....

    Yes all those options exist and this would be another harmless option. That's the beauty of options, they are mutable, you can stack one on top of another, hell you even conceded that what people do does not matter to you. Ok then, so why worry about a client side feature that has no bearing on you?

    Hell you can make PF for people to not join you with silly glams. People do it with jobs, RP, whatever already anyway. That's all I'm saying when I say we all have those options.
    ......Again not the point or argument...

    At this point, I am not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Klb600 View Post
    .... Not the point, most already conceded that the likelihood of this feature happening is very slim...



    Then why argue against it? Thanks for confirming the bias....

    Yes all those options exist and this would be another harmless option. That's the beauty of options, they are mutable, you can stack one on top of another, hell you even conceded that what people do does not matter to you. Ok then, so why worry about a client side feature that has no bearing on you?



    ......Again not the point or argument...

    At this point, I am not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse..
    Because when I mentioned a maybe fix for this maybe issue people go all " But then I'll get shamed" And I'm saying you won't. People don't do that to anything else and for the tiny morons that do you report them. And that was my point, when you say you don't have options I'm telling you you do. Making PFs and everything else I mentioned. And again like I said from the beginning it goes both ways. Everything you're saying I'm doing you and others are doing also. I think the icon is the best way for both sides to be happy.

    And actually.. why isn't that not the point? What're you still fighting for it for if we both agree this isn't happening? See what I mean? It does go both ways.
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  3. #2223
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    icon is the best way for both sides to be happy.
    That's called a ramification...

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    It does go both ways.
    It really doesn't...

    And actually.. why isn't that not the point? What're you still fighting for it for if we both agree this isn't happening? See what I mean? It does go both ways
    Its the principle of the matter, Just because something has a slim chance of not happening doesn't mean its not worth simply asking for or arguing why(people do it on forums all the time, its one of the main purposes of a forum, discussion.)....

    Its not the point because I am not advocating for segregation from glamour people, your proposition is just that...

    Just because an Option exist doesn't mean they're the best. That's what Quality of life is for..Plenty of QoL already exist, this would just be another. This is a client side features for those who want to enhance their playing experience without hampering my experience or the oppositions. I am trying to meet them halfway. But clearly people don't want to...
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  4. #2224
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    This kind of feature is not important for me. Anyway, the really but really weird thing is...

    Why one earth some here feel entitled to force people to see your glamour if they don't like it?
    You can glamour the way you want for yourself for your own satisfaction as it appears on your screen but if someone prefer to see the AF by default, why does it bother you that much?

    The game has not to be way the life goes, it is all the interesting part in a virtual world and client side features : you can do whatever you please for yourself without arming anyone (and as soon as it doesn't arm anyone).

    If you imagine you will change people or their tastes that way, you are totally wrong, most likely you will make them angry. Is that your purpose? If so, there nothing noble and it doesn't make you a tolerant or comprehensive people, it just ends to be some kind of useless and unproductive militancy (with the opposite result than the supposed purpose).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    This kind of feature is not important for me. Anyway, the really but really weird thing is...

    Why one earth some here feel entitled to force people to see your glamour if they don't like it?
    You can glamour the way you want for yourself for your own satisfaction as it appears on your screen but if someone prefer to see the AF by default, why does it bother you that much?

    The game has not to be way the life goes, it is all the interesting part in a virtual world and client side features : you can do whatever you please for yourself without arming anyone (and as soon as it doesn't arm anyone).

    If you imagine you will change people or their tastes that way, you are totally wrong, most likely you will make them angry. Is that your purpose? If so, there nothing noble and it doesn't make you a tolerant or comprehensive people, it just ends to be some kind of useless and unproductive militancy (with the opposite result than the supposed purpose).
    So you paying everyone's sub now to tell them what they should put on their character? That's some deep pockets. Noone should be trying to change anyone tastes. That's not what I'm saying. I hope people aren't trying to change tastes cause that's a fools game. I'm asking for an icon if anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    So you paying everyone's sub now to tell them what they should put on their character? That's some deep pockets. Noone should be trying to change anyone tastes. That's not what I'm saying. I hope people aren't trying to change tastes cause that's a fools game. I'm asking for an icon if anything.

    You can wear whatever you want for yourself on your computer. You glamour for yourself.

    And If there is something among all that has not to be it is the icon. It doesn't make sense. We talk about a client-side feature.

    You know, there is something you don't realize : how it's look on your computer or TVscreen if you are on PS4 is not the necessary the same on others screens. Someone who play with "warm" colours will not have the same experience than someone who play with "real" colours. Depending of your graphic card, it can look as it was in 2010 or looks almost photorealist if someone is using mods.

    I do play in "real" colours since I have use of a fair colours balance for graphics creations (and photography) but many people use "warm" colours instead.

    EDIT : Fixed the english way, since I like to tease ;o)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    You can wear whatever you want for yourself on your computer. You glamour for yourself.

    And If there is something among all that has not to be it is the icon. It doesn't make sense. We talk about a client-side feature.

    You know, there is something you don't realize : how it's look on your computer or TVscreen if you are on PS4 is not the necessary the same on others screens. Someone who play with "warm" colours will not have the same experience than someone who play with "real" colours. Depending of your graphic card, it can look as it was in 2010 or looks almost photorealist if someone is using mods.

    I do play in "real" colours since I have use of a fair colour balance for graphics creation but many people use "warm" colors instead.
    Why is there a "u" in your colors? D: That is more important I think then what someone is wearing. and yes.. I'm literally asking this cause I'm confused by this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    This kind of feature is not important for me. Anyway, the really but really weird thing is...

    Why one earth some here feel entitled to force people to see your glamour if they don't like it?
    You can glamour the way you want for yourself for your own satisfaction as it appears on your screen but if someone prefer to see the AF by default, why does it bother you that much?

    The game has not to be way the life goes, it is all the interesting part in a virtual world and client side features : you can do whatever you please for yourself without arming anyone (and as soon as it doesn't arm anyone).

    If you imagine you will change people or their tastes that way, you are totally wrong, most likely you will make them angry. Is that your purpose? If so, there nothing noble and it doesn't make you a tolerant or comprehensive people, it just ends to be some kind of useless and unproductive militancy (with the opposite result than the supposed purpose).
    I'm personally uhappy enough with knowing that there are people with "no ears miqo'te" and clothes changing mods and such running around the map. Not to the point of unsubbing, but enough for being against the feature that is supposed to make something similar an officially allowed attitude. Yes, I do glamour my character for myself. But it's a social game, and while my character is designed a certain way to appeal to myself, it's also how I want it to be presented to others, not any other way.

    Also let's get real: the chance that it would be implemented as "AF gear shown" is next to 0, it would be either racial gear or just turned off glamour entirely because it's easier to support.

    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    Why is there a "u" in your colors? D:
    Because Europe and British standards, I would assume. At least that's how this word was teached to me in my school, when I was a student, and we had "British" English there (Russia).
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  10. #2229
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canada_bangs View Post
    Why is there a "u" in your colors? D: That is more important I think then what someone is wearing. and yes.. I'm literally asking this cause I'm confused by this.
    Mistype. English is not my mothertongue ^_^

    I guess I should do some dictation

    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Because Europe and British standards, I would assume. At least that's how this word was teached to me in my school, when I was a student, and we had "British" English there (Russia).
    This too. ^_^

    We learn english way of writing. I mixed american and english.

    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    I'm personally uhappy enough with knowing that there are people with "no ears miqo'te" and clothes changing mods and such running around the map. Not to the point of unsubbing, but enough for being against the feature that is supposed to make something similar an officially allowed attitude. Yes, I do glamour my character for myself. But it's a social game, and while my character is designed a certain way to appeal to myself, it's also how I want it to be presented to others, not any other way.

    Also let's get real: the chance that it would be implemented as "AF gear shown" is next to 0, it would be either racial gear or just turned off glamour entirely because it's easier to support.
    I know. Most likely. And that's not an important feature for me but the fact is the technics makes it doesn't always look on others screens the way we imagine.


    EDIT : This is somehow a mistype since I mixed the two ways of writing it. Fixed it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    Mistype. English is not my mothertongue ^_^
    It's not a mistype. Just not US standard.
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