Mogstation taking another step to the darkside

[dinnertime]

Can't wait for the next cash shop complaint thread when they add something new again.

[Melichoir]

So now seasonal mounts added to the cash-shop with no chance of getting it in game. This is turning into a wallet drain game. We already pay 15+ for sub, pay for additional retainers and expansions. Now we have to buy seasonal event mounts that is more expensive than the sub? WOW SE you are going too far. If you are going to say "You dont have to buy it" Dont bother...the point is after paying all this money to play the game now they are starting to gate seasonal items in the cashshop....Just wow.

It's almost like SE is a company that wants to make a profit! Who wouldve thunk it!

Seriously though, get over yourselves. You pay 15 a month for the content they promised you (which is overwhelmingly most of the game). Complaining that "Oh nooz, a mount thats purely cosmetic I cant get in game!" sounds pretty damn entitled to me, especially since they dont release Mog station content that often and this game goes to great lengths as it is to give you fun stuff akin to that. In fact, easily some of the best and funnest mounts and glamours in the game are achievable in game. But losing your S over a mogstation mount? Geez. Look, SE isnt perfect, and there's a lot to criticize and discuss, but a mount on mogstation isnt one of them.


But lets be real: If any of you feel that strongly about it, that you feel this is them ripping you off, go find a game or dev thatll give you everything for 15 a month, no strings attached. Otherwise cool it with the entitlement, buy the mount if you want it, wait for a sale, or just hush up about it. People be acting like $24 for a mount is a huge deal, but I am willing to be that most of the complainers spend that much in a week on things that are even more frivolous than a mount thatll last you til you stop playing this game.

[MikkoAkure]

I kind of doubt those claims. It seems to me that you are getting tricked by PR.

What evidence or precedence is there that suggests that it's all a big scam and we're all being tricked because these could have been in the regular game if it weren't for the mogstation? It's really weird that a spriggan mount is bringing all the conspiracy theorists out of the woodwork. The problem with those kinds of ideas is that they exist because they makes people feel better about themselves if they've "figured it out" and that anyone who buys in is a sucker.

[Eric_Riot]

So now seasonal mounts added to the cash-shop with no chance of getting it in game. This is turning into a wallet drain game. We already pay 15+ for sub, pay for additional retainers and expansions. Now we have to buy seasonal event mounts that is more expensive than the sub? WOW SE you are going too far. If you are going to say "You dont have to buy it" Dont bother...the point is after paying all this money to play the game now they are starting to gate seasonal items in the cashshop....Just wow.

Eh.. it's not even that good looking, I'd never farm for it. I think the 4 seater car is the best most useful mount and that was not "pay to buy". As long as they keep the "ugly" stuff on the mog station and the cool stuff that I actually want in game then I'm good .

[SamRF]

What evidence or precedence is there that suggests that it's all a big scam and we're all being tricked because these could have been in the regular game if it weren't for the mogstation? It's really weird that a spriggan mount is bringing all the conspiracy theorists out of the woodwork. The problem with those kinds of ideas is that they exist because they makes people feel better about themselves if they've "figured it out" and that anyone who buys in is a sucker.

My only evidence would be common sense and logical reasoning with how PR operates. SE is no indie game company, it's really not a stretch to assume those claims are simply PR management.

I don't believe that you're a sucker if you do buy stuff from Cash Shop (I have bought stuff too), I'm just putting forward arguments of what kind of game we might be promoting if Cash Shop is tolerated to get more significant. If that's the kind of game you want, or are okay with, then by all means you should buy stuff from the Cash Shop. I'm just saying that there could be a potential concern you are not aware of, even with seemingly harmless micro transactions.

[bezal]

Just get a job and order one less a pizza a month and boom there is your mount money

[Losara]

Possibly an unpopular opinion but SE should probably add in FFXIV bonds/tokens at some point.

That would be an easy way to make money, and it would actually help out the players who can't afford the sub at the moment with real money but can easily get the in-game money meaning more players can still play.

[Alleo]

But I will bother.

I could clear all the way through savage and ultimate without any of those mounts. Nor would they even help me do so.

So charging money for them is fair game.

They are not needed to successfully play the game, at all.

Non-issue here.

I dont care for Ultimates and you dont need to clear them to play the story so I would be fine if they are behind a paywall.

Cosmetics are important to players. A lot of the content is stuffed full with rewards because they know that a lot of it is only done because of these rewards. Most of these rewards are glamour, hair, pets, mounts and now new dye. SE would not sell us so many cosmetic items including mounts if people did not want them. They are (next to the challenge) for a lot of people the reason they farm stuff. So yes they are quite important.

I would be less against the cash shop if there are certain things:
1. Old events items should be cheap. They are basically selling something that was once free ingame for real money. Including stuff that can be eaten. (Yoshida even once said that they are not selling those event items to earn money but to give players a chance to own them...yet the prices tell us something quite different..)
2. Any exclusive cash shop item should be either in the game and buying it would only give it to you faster or there should be a way to exchange ingame currency for cash shop money or sell the items ingame.

Win Win for everyone. Those with income that they want to spend on these digital items can still do it and ignore the grind, the rest can either grind the currency or just the item directly.

Just get a job and order one less a pizza a month and boom there is your mount money

With this you assume that anyone who is against cash shop is just against it because they are poor. Thats not true at all. I did buy stuff in the past (when I still believed that this will help the game..then I saw how we got less and less) and I could buy stuff now but I dont. I dont care if you do. The bad ones are still SE who are doing quite fine with creating items that people want to spend money on. Its the sad truth that as soon as a cool mount is shown the first question some ask is: Will this be in the mog station again?

In the end they should already earn quite a bit of money from the potions and old event items. I just dont see any need for them to sell exlcusive stuff to us..especially when they already sell ingame items with real merchandise.

[yukiiyuki]

Just get a job and order one less a pizza a month and boom there is your mount money

Fan of EA games?

[DumdogsWorld]

I dont care for Ultimates and you dont need to clear them to play the story so I would be fine if they are behind a paywall. .

I 100% agree with the point you're making, but I would also like to point out that the analogy is slightly flawed because it mixes up content and rewards.

It would be more accurate to compare it to letting you complete your ultimates, extreme trials, etc, but then you need to pay a real life fee to actually obtain your loot, tokens, and weapons.