Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Go play archage, black dessert, and Tera before you say that. FFXIV is no where near those actual free to play games. Oh and no where near as bad as fallout 76 or ESO.
Quote Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD View Post
No offense, but it seems like you've never played an mmo other than FFXIV. The fact you even brought up Fortnite tells me that. That game is a poor example to use in this context. Just because vanity is a part of FFXIV game doesn't make you entitled to get anything you want. And honestly, compared to other mmos, what FFXIV does is astoundingly tame. Have you played Black Desert or Blade and Soul? I see people here complain that costumes in FFXIV are $18, which is honestly rather steep. Do you know how much they cost in BDO? Between $29 and $32 PER OUTFIT on a SINGLE CHARACTER. Then you have BnS's deceptive point system. $10 = 800 NC Points. So when you see outfits for 1440 NC points, unless you're constantly doing math, you won't know know how much you're actually spending. Items that cost 44 NC Points cost more than they seem. Also, vanity is a part of those games, too. Neither of them expect you to spend $32 on every single costume in a store. That's insane. They only want you to take what you want.
Again, stop seeing FFXIV, BDO, and BnS as traditional $60 console games. Call of Duty's online for each game lasts an over of 1 to 2 years. FFXIV's online is over 10 years old and costs more to sustain for so long.
You two are funny, I played F2P mmos for most of my gaming life. And you know what? Prices of cosmetics might be higher there but: 1- you're not paying a sub and expansion boxes on top of that, you're only paying cash shop and completely optional, so while you're playing a game for free might as well pay for what you get by giving something for the cash shop. 2- in most of those games (ex Tera, Aion) the cash shop items can be sold on the marketplace so they're also avalaible in game.
It's funny because I played Aion for many years without ever paying a cent, and I never lacked anything cause whatever I wanted from the cash shop I could just buy with in game currency. Then I gave back by buying a bunch of outfits on BnS, and no matter how overpriced they are it's still nill compared to having to pay subs and box prices. That's the whole point of cash shops in free to play games, it's their ONLY revenue, they're not charging you anything else.
Hell, in some f2p mmos, like Rift, you can even convert in game currency straight to cash shop currency.

So comparing a p2p mmo with f2p ones not only is apples to oranges, but it actually makes this game look worse, if it has to get down to the level of games that only get a revenue from cash shop.

Also, FFXIV players: gamour is the real endgame
but then: cosmetics can just be ignored.