Mogstation taking another step to the darkside

[Vahlnir]

I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Go play archage, black dessert, and Tera before you say that. FFXIV is no where near those actual free to play games. Oh and no where near as bad as fallout 76 or ESO.

Out of the games you listed, I have only played ESO for a lengthy bit of time. It is absolutely terrible in this regard. Fun game but they tend to lock most of the good cosmetics/mounts behind a pay wall, usually loot boxes. It is bad enough that I stopped playing it entirely. It's a shame, really, since it is a really fun game otherwise. I just couldn't see past their blatant cash grabbing. FF XIV's cash shop isn't on the same level as ESO. Heck, they are basically in 2 different universes as far as this goes.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Damn you guys sound like batter partners. Its generous that after we pay sub and expansions that they let us buy a mount with giving us a chance to get it in game. really? lol

You had your chance to get it for free at one point, and you missed it. Tough. Im sorry you dont like that.
Whats the point of a Seasonal Event item if you can Just get it in Game at any time? Just because you Pay X amount per-month to Play a game doesn't mean your entitled to anything, except the ability to play the game.

You want an event item but couldn't make the event. Welp, if you want you can buy it. Up to you if you want to pay for it for missing the event.
Don't like it? Thats your right, and its your choice not to buy it.

[Gula]

You had your chance to get it for free at one point, and you missed it. Tough. Im sorry you dont like that.
Whats the point of a Seasonal Event item if you can Just get it in Game at any time? Just because you Pay X amount per-month to Play a game doesn't mean your entitled to anything, except the ability to play the game.

You want an event item but couldn't make the event. Welp, if you want you can buy it. Up to you if you want to pay for it for missing the event.
Don't like it? Thats your right, and its your choice not to buy it.

It's quite easy to understand in itself I feel, but thank you for the elaboration.

The fact that it's account wide makes it even better because I hate having to buy a glam or emote multiple times.

[Lathander81]

You had your chance to get it for free at one point, and you missed it. Tough. Im sorry you dont like that.
Whats the point of a Seasonal Event item if you can Just get it in Game at any time? Just because you Pay X amount per-month to Play a game doesn't mean your entitled to anything, except the ability to play the game.

You want an event item but couldn't make the event. Welp, if you want you can buy it. Up to you if you want to pay for it for missing the event.
Don't like it? Thats your right, and its your choice not to buy it.

So we are talking about the mount that was placed into the cashshop and not one that was ever available. Please make sure you know what you are debating. I dont mind items being in the cashshop after there in the game. This one went straight to cashshop.

[SturmChurro]

So we are talking about the mount that was placed into the cashshop and not one that was ever available. Please make sure you know what you are debating. I dont mind items being in the cashshop after there in the game. This one went straight to cashshop.

Yeah, and it went to the cash shop, because it was probably made by the mogstation team, and not the game's team. So created specifically for the cash shop. Doesn't matter if it has a holiday theme and timing you don't like. Wouldn't be available at all otherwise.

No, I'm not necessarily advocating for cash shop only mounts either. You can check my lodestone I have a total of one mount from there, that I got on sale. I spend my money on fantasia. The playerbase votes with their wallet. They buy the mounts, so the mogstation team meets the demand.

[Duskane]

No matter what you say they are not gonna stop or give people the option in game
The Mogstation team is different to main ff14 team and doubt they even take forum feedback.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

So we are talking about the mount that was placed into the cashshop and not one that was ever available. Please make sure you know what you are debating. I dont mind items being in the cashshop after there in the game. This one went straight to cashshop.

I wasn't debating an item going straight to the cash shop, I made a statement about Seasonal Items being sold later in the cash shop. And you engaged in it XD.
But getting on track, why is it a big deal? Its a Premium Mount that they are putting up for sale in the Premium Store. Its pretty extreme to say that FFXIV is becoming a Wallet Drain game over a Premium Mount.
And btw...You get 2 free Retainers, anything more you pay extra for, and its optional. Just wanted to set that straight, cause you opening post made it sound like we have to pay for retainers .

[MikkoAkure]

I still remember the time when Yoshida said that the mog station would be old events only..and now we get a perfectly fine mount for cash instead of the ingame event.

What are you talking about? The in-game event comes out on Monday. It's on the lodestone. We're getting 2 different bunny outfits, a stuffed bunny, and a poster.

The timing is weird but spriggans aren't necessarily spring themed and seems to be a higher quality than most non-mogstation mounts. Are we going to have this thread whenever a cash shop mount happens?

[Galaktica]

I would've defended this years ago when event rewards were still pretty good, but most (certainly not all) of the events for the last year+ have had some bum rewards if you ask me. I feel like this would've been a reward in the past, but now...eeehhhh.

That said, if you wanna buy the new mount or whatever then go ahead. It's your money. If you're having fun and you feel it's worth it, then that's literally all that matters. Forget the haters and keep on doin you, sweetie. It's not a big deal at the end of the day. And anyone who attacks other players for buying it needs to take a step back.

I'm just saying, it's not something I'm a fan of personally.

[REPROBEAN_CHILD]

Vanity is a part of the game. If you can see that then I dont know what to tell you. They have basically done everything but sell power at this point. Why do people have to wait for that to say something. You maybe fine with it but Im not. Its unreasonable to ask your customers to pay for a sub that may include storage and expansions and then bait them with "vanity" items in an ever growing cashshop. When I first started playing all that was in there was dye, change potions and last years seasonal events items. Now its like a f2p cashshop that would make some of them blush...hell even Fornite skins are cheaper lol.

No offense, but it seems like you've never played an mmo other than FFXIV. The fact you even brought up Fortnite tells me that. That game is a poor example to use in this context. Just because vanity is a part of FFXIV game doesn't make you entitled to get anything you want. And honestly, compared to other mmos, what FFXIV does is astoundingly tame. Have you played Black Desert or Blade and Soul? I see people here complain that costumes in FFXIV are $18, which is honestly rather steep. Do you know how much they cost in BDO? Between $29 and $32 PER OUTFIT on a SINGLE CHARACTER. Then you have BnS's deceptive point system. $10 = 800 NC Points. So when you see outfits for 1440 NC points, unless you're constantly doing math, you won't know how much you're actually spending. Items that cost 44 NC Points cost more than they seem. Also, vanity is a part of those games, too. Yet, neither of them expect you to spend $32 on every single costume in a store. That's insane. They only want you to take what you want.
Again, stop seeing FFXIV, BDO, and BnS as traditional $60 console games. Call of Duty's online for each game lasts an over of 1 to 2 years. FFXIV's online is over 10 years old and costs more to sustain for so long.