Mogstation taking another step to the darkside

[Divinemights]

It is items from past seasonal event.
It is give and take.
If you really want this item you would spend time and obtained it already.
If you are party for the party because you just start the game, it is bad, that is just how it is.
For example, the public transit in my city used to offer free parking if you bought a monthly pass
By the time I bought my car, i will need to pay for the parking even with a monthly pass
Am I going to yell that my city is a bloody greedy money sucker?
I dont think so, that is how how thing is

[Fredco191]

Yeah. They should’ve put those dances in the Gold Saucer or something.

i’m kind of joking. i don’t really care, but, i have to agree that it’d be nice to get more stuff in the game rather than the MogStation.

[ForteNightshade]

It sounds to me all you are doing is defending Square Enix's excessive pricing for optional items that could well be part of in-game events.

Without ruining SE's business, another solution for everyone to enjoy optional items would be if they slashed half the item's price after every year in the store, so it starts at 100% the price, one year later 50%, one year later 25%, etc. etc., I doubt many players buy DLCs after years in the Mog Station anyway!.

Providing an explanation is not defending their practice. People also have this misconception that were the Cash Shop to not exist, all these items would have be released as in-game rewards. They wouldn't be. They just wouldn't be made at all because the whole point of Cash Shop exclusives is to generate profit. Take the profit away and... what incentive does SE have to release them? Bear in mind, the Cash Shop is handled by a different team who exist only to make DLC.

While your sale idea is nice, considering Sleipnir remains one of the best selling mounts four years later. Probably not much incentive for SE to cut their profit from $24 to $6.

Anyone thinking that all those mog station dollars are going I to the game is delusional, can't forget fattening up the shareholder's wallets!

Actually, it does. The Cash Shop is the only revenue which stays in FFXIV according to Yoshida. Our sub fees are what is divvied up into other SE projects like FFVII: Remake and FFXV.

[Saefinn]

I know what I am getting and I know what I am not getting. Thank you for the very unneeded list. Again if you are cool with them stuffing the cashshop with items that could be in the game then cool. In my opinion, any mount or other tiem should be available to people that pay. Also they make money other ways than just the cashshop. So dont give me that bull about needing it to make more content. The have an irl shop as well...they also sell ticket for events...the list goes on. If you want to keep drinking the koolaid then be my guest. This is greed pure and simple...you can tell that by the price of the mount.

As your initial dismissive comment to those who disagree with you was "Smart people should question why they pay a sub and still cant get all the items in the game" it felt pertinent to clarify what our sub is paying for and why we should pay our sub when we don't get items from the cash shop in game without buying them.

But it's not BS and I didn't say it's /needed/ to make content, but if money is paid back into the game, that's more to be spent on content.

The truth of the matter is, we don't know if it is greed or if the money is put back to benefit of the game or if it's put out to benefit other games. Hence my statement was not a concrete one. Unless we see how the cash flow and budgeting works at SE, how much goes back to the game, how much goes to the company as a whole, how much lines people's pockets, then we're working on speculation here.

Whilst I am anti corporate greed, my first assumption isn't always gonna be "company trying to make more money off of additional services? They must be greedy". I would be more interested in knowing what they're doing with their money before I make the connection. I prefer evidence over speculation. By all means, you're welcome to the opinion that a cash shop shouldn't exist when you're using a subscription model, just because people disagree with you doesn't mean they're less smart or drinking the Koolaid.

However, I don't think it takes anything away from my experience of playing the game and is generally quite inoffensive, not like games that favour lootboxes or just the general horror of the mobile game's market, which can take a perfectly good game and ruin it with currencies and pay walls.

But what's not speculative is that your subscription is paying for the service you're getting. It's not unusual for a subscription to have additional purchases to it. I have a recipe box subscription, it provides me with everything I need. But they also offer extras I can buy that may subscription doesn't pay for.

However, let's say hypothetically that the cash shop did not exist, you paid your sub and the game existed exactly as it is right now just without any of the items we currently have on the cash shop. Would you feel like you're being cheated? That you are deprived of anything despite what you're paying your subscription for?

[DumdogsWorld]

I don't mind some mounts and stuff being exclusive to the Mog Station as long as there continues to also be ones that can only be obtained by grinding, difficult content, etc.

But then again, it isn't about having the mount with me, it's about what I went through to get it.

[xxvaynxx]

Because our sub gives us access to far more content than a mount? I get being upset over the pricing or the Cash Shop in general, but lets not pretend we're losing some significant piece of content. In fact, this is the first exclusive Cash Shop mount of Shadowbringers compared to what, 20 they've added in-game? I don't like the timing but I'll just not buy it.

Pretty much this...like...sure you can't get it in-game but does it affect gameplay in anyway? are you gaining some sort of advantage?
Its just a dumb mount you only use in the open world, these knee-jerk comments are the pinnacle of over reacting.
Like its fine to be mad but lets not throw out "I'm quitting!" "Small indie company!!!" like you're actually gonna quit over not having a mount.

[ElazulHP]

So now seasonal mounts added to the cash-shop with no chance of getting it in game. This is turning into a wallet drain game. We already pay 15+ for sub, pay for additional retainers and expansions. Now we have to buy seasonal event mounts that is more expensive than the sub? WOW SE you are going too far. If you are going to say "You dont have to buy it" Dont bother...the point is after paying all this money to play the game now they are starting to gate seasonal items in the cashshop....Just wow.

While this is true it's not enough to stop me from playing the game... yet. Though I have to say stuff like this is why I don't play other MMOs. You're beginning to cross a line Square. Pull back before it's too late.

[SamRF]

We have to be careful with these seemingly "innocent/harmless" micro transactions, which are usually cosmetics. Cash Shop will over time incentivize the developers to dull the base game in order to drive Cash Shop sales.

[Cetek14]

Square Enix is a small indie studio, totally not big AAA company. You must be one of these entitled western players who want to get everything for subscription.

[Mavrias]

We really don't need this post every time the mogstation gets an update. Either buy it or don't, gameplay won't change if you have this mount or don't.