Mogstation taking another step to the darkside

[Gemina]

I'm not happy that gorgeous spriggy mount was placed in the cash shop either, but it's hard to he shocked by the decision. I'm even willing to bet it might have initially been an event reward, and then a lala-minded individual in marketing saw it in action and said, "That will sell like crazy. Replace his eggs with general stones, and put it in the shop asap"

And this person is not wrong. We can gripe about it all day, but that mount is likely selling like hot cakes, right now. I'm even tempted. Really tempted. I've never bought a CS mount, but I am compelled by spriggys. Not sure my will is strong enough to resist this one.

[Saefinn]

So if they stopped having glamour in the game you are cool with that too? If they charged for dungeon runs thats cool? If you have been playing the game for a while you would know this is not an "every so often" thing. Also it does take away from the game...Im paying a whole sub...not half but a full sub. Everything that is made for the game I should have access to..period. If you are cool with a game taking your full sub and staking shit out for you to pay extra then thats on you.

But...they're not? This is a slippery slope fallacy.

They're charging for vanity items and jump potions. Not taking things away from the game. If they started taking the mick and the balance was off on what they're adding to the shop, especially if they're taking content and features from the game and locking them behind another pay wall, then yes, I would have a problem.

But the odd vanity item and jump potions? Absolutely fine. SE have remained a consistent balance with what goes on the mogstation that I've never felt to be unreasonable and I don't feel they have ever abused it.

[Vahlnir]

I still remember the time when Yoshida said that the mog station would be old events only..and now we get a perfectly fine mount for cash instead of the ingame event.

Anyone with half a brain knew that it was going to go way beyond old event items.

[Doki]

Honestly, I am surprised they haven't done season passes on top of this yet. You know it's gonna happen.

[Lathander81]

But you're getting EXACTLY what your sub is paying for. Its giving you access to an online multiplayer game that's constantly growing and evolving with regular on schedule content filled with new items including (but not limited to) gear, glamours, mounts, emotes, pets and so on (you get a lot more in game than what they sell on the cash shop). It gives you new content modes when they're released. Seasonal events. You get access to new storylines and an MSQ with a growing increase in quality and value. If we didn't pay for a subscription, then we'd probably be looking at a game of a similar production value as Guild Wars 2 or any MMO with an F2P model that works, which is still a great game, but it is still of a lower production quality, with less in the way of big updates, less regular updates, less in the way of new shinies and so on, the time between expansions is longer. Battle and content design is way weaker (my main gripe was their artificial difficulty). There's also less variety in terms of how I can glamour my characters. But the GW2 do great with what they have.

But there's a reason why some people prefer a subscription model to an F2P one.

The cash shop, yes, it provides them with more money, that's more money that can go into the game without compromising any of the game's features or play-ability. But most importantly, it's an additional service. Not one that's included as part of your subscription. Nor is it something you're entitled to because you've subscribed, nor are you losing anything (and if a portion of that cash shop money is going back into the game, then you're also indirectly getting something out of it).

I know what I am getting and I know what I am not getting. Thank you for the very unneeded list. Again if you are cool with them stuffing the cashshop with items that could be in the game then cool. In my opinion, any mount or other tiem should be available to people that pay. Also they make money other ways than just the cashshop. So dont give me that bull about needing it to make more content. The have an irl shop as well...they also sell ticket for events...the list goes on. If you want to keep drinking the koolaid then be my guest. This is greed pure and simple...you can tell that by the price of the mount.

[Vahlnir]

I know what I am getting and I know what I am not getting. Thank you for the very unneeded list. Again if you are cool with them stuffing the cashshop with items that could be in the game then cool. In my opinion, any mount or other tiem should be available to people that pay. Also they make money other ways than just the cashshop. So dont give me that bull about needing it to make more content. The have an irl shop as well...they also sell ticket for events...the list goes on. If you want to keep drinking the koolaid then be my guest. This is greed pure and simple...you can tell that by the price of the mount.

Yoshi P has said before that the game's money doesn't always go back into the game. I think it is pretty obvious when SE's got a hot new title they're working on, the game suffers a bit. Unfortunately, the devs probably DO need whatever money they can get from the cash shop to keep pushing out content, because they definitely don't get the money and manpower they deserve. Still though, every business exists to make money, so a little greed is always a factor.

[Rasikko]

They haven't made it into a Pay to Win model so I think we can rest easy, and yes I wish some of those things could be obtained in game.

[SigmaOZ]

It sounds to me all you are doing is defending Square Enix's excessive pricing for optional items that could well be part of in-game events.


Without ruining SE's business, another solution for everyone to enjoy optional items would be if they slashed half the item's price after every year in the store, so it starts at 100% the price, one year later 50%, one year later 25%, etc. etc., I doubt many players buy DLCs after years in the Mog Station anyway!.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

So if they stopped having glamour in the game you are cool with that too? If they charged for dungeon runs thats cool? If you have been playing the game for a while you would know this is not an "every so often" thing.

That arguement make 0 sense. You're talking about removing features or charging extra for core gameplay that has never once been a thing ever. No one would be ok with that because that would be a change of service and many would simply find another game to invest in.

The developers know that item popularity depends a lot on exclusivity and its why so many items are gated behind Savage/Extremes/Ultimates/ and PVP. Beyond the Extremes, those other mounts are unattainable for me. The cash shop is no different except those items are available to EVERYONE, regardless of skill level. You just have to pay.

If you don't like the cash shop or the concept of it, don't buy from it. I'm just glad its not locked behind BS currency packs. There's Crysta but you can buy literally 1 dollars worth or anything between or just buy it out right otherwise. We've got it good here. I wish the cash shop had more stuff.

[SonjaRampage]

Anyone thinking that all those mog station dollars are going I to the game is delusional, can't forget fattening up the shareholder's wallets!