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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Considering the high amount of cutscenes in the game, there are only a small number in which you are forced to look at other player's glams, and most of them are super short. Also there's nothing stopping you from focusing on something else on the screen or just looking away from it.

    Yes I do know msq roulette cutscenes are long and you cannot skip them...but sometimes people wear silly glams because they feel the content is super boring and they're trying to find some way to shake up the monotony of it. If msq roulette was very compelling, this would happen less.

    I honestly think msq roulette instances should be altered to solo duties but that's another conversation that is quite off-topic.

    Genuinely puzzled by this one. The only times I cannot move my camera are during cutscenes, or interacting with things such as a retainer bell. I can't think of a location in the game where you cannot move your camera if you're not interacting with something. Please inform me of them because I am truly at a loss as to where these locations are.
    IF you want a certain backdrop or view and someone with a undesirable glamour walks in and ruins the shot (for you) then you would have to change your desirable angle to accommodate for them possibly several times if they're moving. Telling someone "well just don't look at that part of the screen" isn't particularly more of a compelling argument than "don't think about it".

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    If you need to walk through town with your camera pointed at the ground in order to avoid seeing glams you dislike then I can only assume that you are excessively fussy about what people wear. Most players are very well dressed.
    And? Some people are picky. Why isn't this a problem just because you think they're fussy? This doesn't sound any different than someone being absolutely particular about how they appear on others screens. Why do you have to worry about how you appear on EVERYONES screen?

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    The conversation recently, because someone else brought it in that direction, moved to how someone wanting to remove traces of men wearing dresses is bigotry. There is concern that being able to do this enables people to pretend certain types of people do not exist even if these people did absolutely nothing wrong.

    You have to admit it's a bit concerning when someone wants to remove the individuality of others because they are intolerant of people not conforming to strict gender roles. Not because they genuinely feel an outfit is very lore breaking.

    As I said before I understand not wanting to see lore breaking outfits, but a person in a dress is not lore breaking. If women wearing dresses is lore appropriate, then why is it not the case for men as well?
    And while I understand there are people out there who don't wish to see things for particularly hateful reasons, there are people out there who just don't wish to see things because they find them unsightly or immersion breaking (lore is very different) . Both very personal things that cannot necessarily be said to be bigotry or intolerance. Why do their particular tastes not matter?
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    Last edited by Krotoan; 03-04-2020 at 05:08 PM.
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?