Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
Can you recall an instance where the Fourteenth is specifically referred to using gendered pronouns? Every instance I've seen just refers to them using ambiguous language (they). "Hythlodaeus" and Emet-Selch don't ever specify who they're talking about, and it's unclear who Emet-Selch sees after Ardbert merges his soul with the WoL's. I agree that it's plausibly (if not probably) the Fourteenth, but there isn't enough information to decisively conclude as much. Unless JP/FR/DE isn't as ambiguous (English is an unusually gender-neutral language, you know...)

That said the Fourteenth is not Venat. That much is off the table.

Hythlodaeus uses your characters pronouns when he talks about the person during his time who shared your soul.
Hythlodaeus: Hm hm hm... Your connection is hardly a coincidence. In our time, the two of you were one─the color of your souls tells the tale.
Hythlodaeus: A hue that distinctive cannot be mistaken, no matter how thin the soul is spread.
Hythlodaeus: Hah! This is just the kind of fate I might expect for one such as she. Surely Emet-Selch has recognized the hint of “her” in you...?
Also I believe they called Venat "she" or "her" after the CS if you talk to the NPCs but it's too late to check back on that. I thought there must've been something there because I had forgotten that Venat was female until that quest.

Back on topic, I'm thinking now that the reason for us being the defector may be to make us sort of an anti-ascian who will be as powerful but not necessarily on any one side. We've already shown shades of this throughout the game as we've put down ascians one-by-one and even Thordan is scared of what we are.