Thread: (5.2 spoilers) The Defector

Originally Posted by QT_Melon

Emphasis mine. When was it stated that ONLY Amaurot was left?

I mean I get it's the central piece story wise but I must have missed it where it was the ONLY populace left? Can you cite this please?

They talk about the calamity already destroying cities before it finally arrived at their doorstep. (One sidequest where they only talk about helping others or not). You are right that it could maybe be that some Ancients somewhere survived but seemingly Amaurot was the last city to be hit. (Final days) It was why they summoned Zodiark, because now they were in danger. If there are some survivors out there I guess they would have gone to the safe place that is still left. There are also two NPCs standing around, talking about being accepted as people of Amaurot while one of them wonders if that is truly such a great idea.

I dont have 100% proof (and maybe I am forgetting something) but the narrative makes it sound like Amaurot (as the important city of their world) was the only one standing. Then there is also the case that Zodiark was summoned there. We dont know how he stopped the calamity but I doubt that it was just one second and suddenly the whole world was alright again. (If that was the case then maybe this could have given people a chance to survive) If he needed time than I doubt that the other people who already were under attack for much longer would survive long enough.

But I agree its probably not that easy to argue for any of those sides since we have no idea how many Ancients (even in Amaurot) survived.

Yeah I think Cities being destroyed is one thing, but the people may be another. I wouldn't be surprised if there were survivors from destroyed cities.

I mean we haven't even uncovered the entire globe so who knows what other surprises are in store for us. I think though development wise (having to create new regions) and story wise it does make sense to centralize the origins to already built assets. Basically making this a "Ground Zero" for the origin of the conflict.

I really hope we find out more about this and the role of the Defector.

Until we do my theory is still that we may have been the one that was responsible for the sundering itself. (I know its probably not the case but I somehow like the idea) Us not working with Hydealyn might be a red herring. We only know that we did not come to them when they discussed it but at that time Hydealyn was still not summoned. Maybe we did try to find a way to solve the problem and noticed that even with Hydealyn keeping Zodiark in check it would not be enough. So maybe we came to them near the time for summoning and told them of the necessity to split the world apart.

Because I honestly dont like the idea that we were completely neutral and if we had some other idea its clear that it did not happen. Of course it was probably all on Venats group, maybe they realized that she would never be strong enough to take out Zodiark.

Well we will see.

Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I believe that the WoL was the 14th, and disliked the idea of creating Zodiark and Hydaelyn. They probably wanted to find another way of saving the star, without making a primal. And what does our character do most of the time? Put down primals :P
Also, the person’s aether that Zenos recognises, that has 2nd hand knowledge, what if it’s part of our soul from another world? would explain why Zenos recognises it, and tolerates them. We’ll probably end up defeating them, absorbing that piece of our soul, and becoming closer to being an unsundered ancient?

This is what I’m leaning towards as well (the mysterious figure with zenos being a shard of ours) it’s the only reason I can think of for Zenos reacting the way he did to the color of their soul (it’s remarked how strange/unique it is by hythlodaeus). If true that’s a huge deal. Could this person be trying to foil Elidibus, or are their intentions dubious?

Another thing that came to mind while bringing up that cloaked person with Zenos. What if it’s possible for shards of ours to absorb each other and combine except for the source (ours)? If this figure is a shard of ours, we can reasonably assume they know how to traverse the rift which is no easy feat. Perhaps they have absorbed some or the rest of our shards from the other remaining worlds. Then they could be on more of an equal fighting ground with us if it should come to that. It may also be possible they were raised up in status to ascian by one of the unsundered. A whole lot to think about!

Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I believe that the WoL was the 14th, and disliked the idea of creating Zodiark and Hydaelyn. They probably wanted to find another way of saving the star, without making a primal. And what does our character do most of the time? Put down primals :P
Also, the person’s aether that Zenos recognises, that has 2nd hand knowledge, what if it’s part of our soul from another world? would explain why Zenos recognises it, and tolerates them. We’ll probably end up defeating them, absorbing that piece of our soul, and becoming closer to being an unsundered ancient?

Even if its our soul shard, they're still definitely possessing Asahi's body. I'd recognize that lunatic smile he gives at the end anywhere. Its the same smile he gave when he gave up the pretenses and revealed himself as the Zenos-fanboy that he is.