Thread: (5.2 spoilers) The Defector

Yeah I think Cities being destroyed is one thing, but the people may be another. I wouldn't be surprised if there were survivors from destroyed cities.

I mean we haven't even uncovered the entire globe so who knows what other surprises are in store for us. I think though development wise (having to create new regions) and story wise it does make sense to centralize the origins to already built assets. Basically making this a "Ground Zero" for the origin of the conflict.

I really hope we find out more about this and the role of the Defector.

Until we do my theory is still that we may have been the one that was responsible for the sundering itself. (I know its probably not the case but I somehow like the idea) Us not working with Hydealyn might be a red herring. We only know that we did not come to them when they discussed it but at that time Hydealyn was still not summoned. Maybe we did try to find a way to solve the problem and noticed that even with Hydealyn keeping Zodiark in check it would not be enough. So maybe we came to them near the time for summoning and told them of the necessity to split the world apart.

Because I honestly dont like the idea that we were completely neutral and if we had some other idea its clear that it did not happen. Of course it was probably all on Venats group, maybe they realized that she would never be strong enough to take out Zodiark.

Well we will see.

Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I believe that the WoL was the 14th, and disliked the idea of creating Zodiark and Hydaelyn. They probably wanted to find another way of saving the star, without making a primal. And what does our character do most of the time? Put down primals :P
Also, the person’s aether that Zenos recognises, that has 2nd hand knowledge, what if it’s part of our soul from another world? would explain why Zenos recognises it, and tolerates them. We’ll probably end up defeating them, absorbing that piece of our soul, and becoming closer to being an unsundered ancient?

Even if its our soul shard, they're still definitely possessing Asahi's body. I'd recognize that lunatic smile he gives at the end anywhere. Its the same smile he gave when he gave up the pretenses and revealed himself as the Zenos-fanboy that he is.

Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I believe that the WoL was the 14th, and disliked the idea of creating Zodiark and Hydaelyn. They probably wanted to find another way of saving the star, without making a primal. And what does our character do most of the time? Put down primals :P
Also, the person’s aether that Zenos recognises, that has 2nd hand knowledge, what if it’s part of our soul from another world? would explain why Zenos recognises it, and tolerates them. We’ll probably end up defeating them, absorbing that piece of our soul, and becoming closer to being an unsundered ancient?

This is what I’m leaning towards as well (the mysterious figure with zenos being a shard of ours) it’s the only reason I can think of for Zenos reacting the way he did to the color of their soul (it’s remarked how strange/unique it is by hythlodaeus). If true that’s a huge deal. Could this person be trying to foil Elidibus, or are their intentions dubious?

Another thing that came to mind while bringing up that cloaked person with Zenos. What if it’s possible for shards of ours to absorb each other and combine except for the source (ours)? If this figure is a shard of ours, we can reasonably assume they know how to traverse the rift which is no easy feat. Perhaps they have absorbed some or the rest of our shards from the other remaining worlds. Then they could be on more of an equal fighting ground with us if it should come to that. It may also be possible they were raised up in status to ascian by one of the unsundered. A whole lot to think about!

Originally Posted by Cereza

Another thing that came to mind while bringing up that cloaked person with Zenos. What if it’s possible for shards of ours to absorb each other and combine except for the source (ours)? If this figure is a shard of ours, we can reasonably assume they know how to traverse the rift which is no easy feat. Perhaps they have absorbed some or the rest of our shards from the other remaining worlds. Then they could be on more of an equal fighting ground with us if it should come to that. It may also be possible they were raised up in status to ascian by one of the unsundered. A whole lot to think about!

Well that would mean that one shard was somehow able to travel through dimensions and had the luck that other shards of us were alive at that time. I mean the first and the source had different timelines going on and without the flood Ardbert would have been long death. And no they are not near on equal fighting ground. We are 9/14 and there is the speculation that a certain someone might be our shard from the 13th. If that is the case then 10th of us are save. Leaving only 4 shards behind. Even if they absorb all three of the other they are not even half us.

We also don't really know how much of a power upgrade absorbing another soul shard gives someone.

The average person from the 1st is only on 1 out of 14, despite that though, they don't seem noticeably weaker than their source counterparts.

Seems it's on a relatively flat curve, at least up to 9/14.



Something like that maybe