Quote Originally Posted by JeanneOrnitier View Post
As for the 14th Convocation member, the gender NPCs refer to them as changes depending on the player's gender. If your WoL is male the 14th is referred to as male, and as female if yor WoL is female. That plus the scene where Emet goes "No, it can't be" when he sees an Ancient in the WoL's place really leaves little room for doubt that the 14th is the WoL. But the 14th is not Venat, an Ancient in the Anyder scene specifically said the 14th was not going to help summon Hydaelyn.
Can you recall an instance where the Fourteenth is specifically referred to using gendered pronouns? Every instance I've seen just refers to them using ambiguous language (they). "Hythlodaeus" and Emet-Selch don't ever specify who they're talking about, and it's unclear who Emet-Selch sees after Ardbert merges his soul with the WoL's. I agree that it's plausibly (if not probably) the Fourteenth, but there isn't enough information to decisively conclude as much. Unless JP/FR/DE isn't as ambiguous (English is an unusually gender-neutral language, you know...)

That said the Fourteenth is not Venat. That much is off the table.