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  1. #201
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    DaulBan's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Daul Ban
    World
    Ultros
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 80
    "Outrage" is a big word to use for something like this. Is it bad? Yes. Not like there needs to be a community uproar over the badness to know it's bad.
    (3)
    One day I'll be the MT mountain I want to be... But that day is not today. (As of Patch 3.2)

  2. #202
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    Lyden's Avatar
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    Character
    Finnegan Binx
    World
    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Archer Lv 30
    Im now rly rly much confused ( had a long break of this game) and i consider to play RDM cause of fix failurs and still do damage ....

    But i have this strange feeling to play RDM lemme sit in the supply closet, and this doesnt sound fair to me, cause how often and much do Devs have to tell the community that every class/job in every constelation can beat every content?!
    And what on earth do ppl think, they are smarter than the ppl which made the game?

    Rly this closemindet position make me sad , cause it doesnt feel u have to freedom to choose.
    (1)

  3. #203
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    Nemekh's Avatar
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    Character
    Nemekh Kinryuu
    World
    Odin
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Part of the World First E8S clear alongside SMN, MNK, BRD as DPS. Consider that for a moment.
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  4. #204
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    Nephisto's Avatar
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    Character
    Ashmal Gamesh
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Ok, I'm back from a very long break and started a RDM and if I understand, RDM has a poor DPS because he can Cure and Raise and nobody cares about the Cure but a bit about the Raise, so RDM is useless in endgame contents?
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  5. #205
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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Character
    Evelynn Outreguerlain
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Nephisto View Post
    Ok, I'm back from a very long break and started a RDM and if I understand, RDM has a poor DPS because he can Cure and Raise and nobody cares about the Cure but a bit about the Raise, so RDM is useless in endgame contents?
    RDM just got buffed, and while they're not as strong as BLM or SMM they're close enough that your group isn't at a disgusting disadvantage if you run RDM over the other 2.
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  6. #206
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Sylvestre Solscribe
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    RDM just got buffed, and while they're not as strong as BLM or SMM they're close enough that your group isn't at a disgusting disadvantage if you run RDM over the other 2.
    Just to add a bit
    RDM is mostly useful during early prog when people die a lot and the rez can allow your group to push a bit further the mecs and see more of the fight. RDM also requires overall less time learning a fight than a BLM for optimal damage which is definitely a plus.

    RDM downside is just lower maximum damage output. However, as it's been said, groups have already cleared E8S on first week with a RDM, so that mean the extra damage from BLM isn't necessary. You can always clear any content with a RDM. This will be more true as time will pass and we'll all get better gear (thus damage).

    So I wouldn't worry.
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  7. #207
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    VarkingRunesong's Avatar
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    Character
    Varking Runesong
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 53
    New player here and I am working my way up to getting Red Mage so I can main it and this last response gives me some hope that I won't be just left behind as a Red Mage come endgame. Then again... I tend to play lesser classes in all MMOs and make the best of it.
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  8. #208
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    Gruntler's Avatar
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    Character
    Kawaiian Punch
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by VarkingRunesong View Post
    New player here and I am working my way up to getting Red Mage so I can main it and this last response gives me some hope that I won't be just left behind as a Red Mage come endgame. Then again... I tend to play lesser classes in all MMOs and make the best of it.
    World first Eden's Verse used a RDM in a double-caster comp. which is RDM's least advantageous comp.

    RDM's not in a bad spot at all now.
    (3)

  9. #209
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    VarkingRunesong's Avatar
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    Varking Runesong
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Gruntler View Post
    World first Eden's Verse used a RDM in a double-caster comp. which is RDM's least advantageous comp.

    RDM's not in a bad spot at all now.
    I hit 50 and switched over to RDM and holy crap its like having to start over at level 1 again. So many skills and abilities I need to learn and keep up with. I've been all over discord and reddit trying to find solid rotations so I am not just noobing it up the whole time.
    (0)

  10. #210
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    Sylvain's Avatar
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    Character
    Sylvestre Solscribe
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    New jobs tend to have all their most important skill on the get go.
    While this may seem overwhelming at first, it is really useful because by the time you reach a few more level, you will actually have nailed down 90% of the end game rotation.

    The same cannot be said with some other job. For instance, a BLM reaching level 60 literally has to learn a new rotation. Thankfully the new lv72 spell isn't as game changing.

    Back to the redmage.
    Your bread and butter will be all the spell you already have. Which are jolt, ver-thunder/aero/fire/stone and your melee combo.
    The rest will mostly be filler barely changing your rotation.
    Lv52 you'll learn moulinet, which is just an aoe version of your melee skill (great for dungeon but nothing new per say)
    Lv54 vercure: mostly unused in raid
    Lv56: contre sixte, juste another ogcd like fleche. Press when available (again nothing actually changing your rotation)
    58 is just a raidbuff
    60 : manafication. Will change a tiny bit how you play once every 2min.
    62-66nothing but new rank the Rez
    68-70: your combo finisher. Yet again, doesn't change your gameplay in the grand scheme of things. Your melee combo just has a fourth step . (With a special rule for a small dps boost)
    And from 72-80
    Well... A melee version of disengage
    And an instant that burns a bit of black and white mana... Which you aren't suppose to use all that much beside when you can't cast .(very situational stuff basically )
    And Lv 80? Well another melee.combo finisher, with no special rule. Justboress the shiny button ...

    So basically , from 52 to 80, in term of ''core'' rotation change, you'll get
    1 ogcd and a 4th and 5th button for your melee combo.
    That's it

    The rest are just fluff, new rank, and 2 cd.

    Which means that, you currently have your full ''core'' kit. The way you play now, is 90% similar to the way you'll play at Lv 80.
    So as long as you out very little effort into actually reading your spells, once you reach Lv 80 you should have a rather good understanding on rdm rotation
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