Why is RDM invisible right now? Where is the outrage?

[Neela]

and they all were locked out in between as well - don’t be hypercritical here. Just because RDM wasn’t meta yet it doesn’t mean others suffered like it as well. The times before said cls were meta in that tiers they were unbalanced and weak as well (not to say that most of their rotations/ping were clunky af too... what RDM can't say until 2day) -> they became meta with patch adjustments -> Smn f.e were more than un-wanted before they nerfed missing-Aetherflow-hit punishment. And hell MCH rotations s*cked absolutely to the fullest. So no: they weren’t meta from the scratch.

There was also a time no one cared for Blm, weird hm? Just because a Cls is meta now it doesn’t mean it always was in a good spot.

[Sora_Oathkeeper]

and they all were locked out in between as well - don’t be hypercritical here. Just because RDM wasn’t meta yet it doesn’t mean others suffered like it as well. The times before said cls were meta in that tiers they were unbalanced and weak as well -> they became meta with patch adjustments.

There was also a time no one cared for Blm, weird hm? Just because a Cls is meta now it doesn’t mean it always was in a good spot.

What I responded to was your statement about how they were all shunned in previous expansions; which is simply untrue for NIN and BRD which have always been meta in previous expansions. I have played since ARR and seen the meta evolve throughout every expansion. NIN and BRD have been meta since their releases right up until SB, wherein a TK MNK could replace a NIN only if the fight design benefitted a MNK moreso.

I agree with your statement about classes now, given the adjustments in 5.1 any job could be mathematically the best for a given role and change the meta. That doesn't change how things are now though currently. Also, i'm well aware that classes aren't always meta. I played MNK since ARR, HW and SB was a shitshow for us lol.

Given the nature of RDM though, it has ALWAYS been shunned outside of progression. However given the discrepancies of DPS between casters, even if you took a RDM for the purpose of having a rezbot, the chances of killing the tier (at least before everyone outgeared it) was a lot lower, simply because of the huge dps disparity. The only jobs to never be apart of the speedrun meta have been RDM and SAM.

Edit:

I never implied jobs were meta from scratch.