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  1. 02-21-2020 09:46 AM #1
    Bsrking5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tsukino View Post
    Those spells are essential to helping keep the identity of the jobs, which traditionally have the ability to heal people.

    I do agree that it's annoying to waste a heal, but that happens with the other healer in full-party content sometimes anyway, and it's not a big enough problem to remove the things that make those jobs Final Fantasy jobs. Go too far in on MMO balance and efficiency and you get the homogeneous jobs across roles and bow mage BS that defined the 3.x era.
    Vercure isn't essential to red mage's identity and clemency doesn't need to be spell or a heal.
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  2. 02-21-2020 09:49 AM #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    Vercure isn't essential to red mage's identity and clemency doesn't need to be spell or a heal.
    srry As much as I dislike final fantasy red mages. I have to agree with Tsukino

    Vercure -is there white magic ability (that really is a real white mage real ability) for medic stuff (so that needs to stay)

    As for Paladin- wish all all their holy spells were removed I wanted to play a knight sword/shield with no holy ability abilitys (and the real lack of any other jobs using a shield kind of force you to go down that path for that fantasy)


    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    They're wrong with not trusting, they don't know which oGCD's the healer has ready. Unless healer let the party get wiped before.
    eh you know when I was upping my warror the healer was dieing alot and I needed my self heals (plus honestly) there are moments where the healer gets chained up/stunned or slept by a games fight mecha so those self heals are honestly highly needed for those phases.
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  3. 02-21-2020 10:18 AM #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    Vercure isn't essential to red mage's identity and clemency doesn't need to be spell or a heal.
    Do know a red mage is a combo of a whm and blm so if you took vercure from them how would they be part whm anymore?. Isn't a paladin a combo of a whm and a knight?
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  4. 02-21-2020 02:02 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    Vercure isn't essential to red mage's identity and clemency doesn't need to be spell or a heal.
    RDM's have always been about white and black magic and a healing spell (vercure) has always been a part of their skillset.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
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