Delete Clemency and Vercure

[DumdogsWorld]

I have a dumb question here, but if 99% of the complaints are that it's on the global cooldown and therefore interrupting rotations, why couldn't they just make the abilities on their own cooldowns?

[SamRF]

I have a dumb question here, but if 99% of the complaints are that it's on the global cooldown and therefore interrupting rotations, why couldn't they just make the abilities on their own cooldowns?

Yes I would be in favor of that. They could change both of those abilities into some kind of healing oGCD's so the jobs can keep their identity.

[Maero]

Only times Red Mages use Vercure, myself anyhow is because of Regen healers. It is like Avidria stated really.
If at all you would think healers would appreciate help?

[testname]

Edit: for those who don't know, Clemency and Vercure are PLD's and RDM's GCD (fairly strong) single target healing abilities.

I'm exaggerating with the title and am not convinced those abilities should be deleted yet, but hear me out:

Very insulting as healer if you see RDM or PLD use Clemency/Vercure when you have everything under control. You're maximizing your dps as healer and thus put in some effort to efficiently heal to extend party will survive only to see the dps gain get completely wasted by that Vercure/Clemency.

At first I kind of liked those abilities when leveling both PLD and RDM, but now have come to hate them when leveling healers to the point I'm wondering if those abilities should even exist. Sure they're really nice abilities if you're doing solo content, but they may suggest the wrong idea to some players by making them believe they should freely use them in group content.

The thing is that healers currently usually rely on their oGCD's for healing while they keep GCD's for dps. In many cases they will let HP decrease so they can make optimal use of their oGCD's. Some RDM and PLD may start thinking they or someone else are going to die with their decreasing health while healer has everything under control and is 1 tap away of getting their HP back up.

There are some exceptional cases, like when healer is dead, or massive overpulling in some specific lower level dungoens, but vast majority of cases I see those 2 abilities used is a complete waste.

The dps loss doesn't bother me that much, it's just not nice for a healer when they're already stuck with their monotone dps rotation and on top of that they deny you of enjoying your job with well timed oGCD's.

In other topic You want to delete glamours , and now this , good job champ- clap clap -

[SamRF]

In other topic You want to delete glamours , and now this , good job champ- clap clap -

How does a client-side option to hide glamours relate in any way to this thread

[tdb]

How does a client-side option to hide glamours relate in any way to this thread

It does give a self-centered vibe, even if such an option wouldn't directly affect other players (but it could indirectly if you took screenshots and posted them; a lot of the time the default appearance is a horrible mishmash of different sets). You seem very intent on having control over how others play and appear to you.

[DumdogsWorld]

It does give a self-centered vibe, even if such an option wouldn't directly affect other players (but it could indirectly if you took screenshots and posted them; a lot of the time the default appearance is a horrible mishmash of different sets). You seem very intent on having control over how others play and appear to you.

He was being rhetorical - the threads have nothing to do with one another.

If you want to debate against this thread's point, the best thing to do is argue against points made in this thread, not other ones.

[SamRF]

It does give a self-centered vibe, even if such an option wouldn't directly affect other players (but it could indirectly if you took screenshots and posted them; a lot of the time the default appearance is a horrible mishmash of different sets). You seem very intent on having control over how others play and appear to you.

The self-centered argument can go both ways in either this thread, my previous prepulling thread as well as posts advocating for client-side glamour hiding. Any time you tell me I'm self-centered for not wanting players to use Clemency/Vercure, I can respond by saying that they are the ones that are self-centered for not allowing me to optimize my job and enjoy the role, and vice versa. It's imo a useless argument that requires to ignore the reverse perspective, no matter which side you're on.

[Sebazy]

I can respond by saying that they are the ones that are self-centered for not allowing me to optimize my job and enjoy the role, and vice versa. It's imo a useless argument that requires to ignore the reverse perspective, no matter which side you're on.

Then I think you need to adjust your expectations of what's realistically achievable in a pug duty. There's only so much optimisation you can expect to achieve with randoms.

[Missbone]

@Topic Delete yourself plz, thanks
If you don't like how this game is designed than play something else.