Quote Originally Posted by Lord_Umbra View Post
Estinien's hate was well justified the fools of Dragons targeted the Sons instead of the Fathers, instead of going after the criminals they punished the entire nation & never told them why, which was also that arrogance that cause the mess by essentially telling Humans you'll rule them cause they're weak. I personally see more as opening the Dragons eyes then Isghardians, people who say they remember always & wont forgive are quite the arrogant fools.

As for Gaius guys ruined so many lives wanted to run Ultima Weapons across Eozera which he would've killed any who wouldn't bend, Gaius has probably ruined many lives & killed many parents which may lead many deaths of kids who could've survive without support. I honestly don't want a happy redemption ending for him & if they do he better be killed off even if killed off in a heroic manner I'll accept that, though I know it probably wont go that way cause introduced these orphans to be like look how nice this mass murderer is!
Agreed.

Personally, I can't accept Gaius as my friend because he straight up massacred my old Scion friends. He sent Livia into the Waking Sands and she executed almost everyone there. And then Gaius kept sending soldiers after us all throughout 2.0, even trying to get Biggs and Wedge. Then he was going to use the Ultima Weapon to start blowing up cities until Eorzea surrendered.

Post ARR, it feels like the game is trying to retcon him as "misguided but not evil", with him shutting down Black Rose and being presented as "the good governor" of Ala Mhigo before "the evil Zenos took over". The game is presenting him as a cool character, but there is just no getting around the "he murdered hundreds of people and was planning on murdering hundreds more" part. I hope the game doesn't try to force him to become our buddy. I've praised this game before for avoiding the usual anime/JRPG problem of there being a lack of accountability (as most villains in the game tend to meet a timely demise; Zenos and Elidibus are really the only guys left), but the way they're handling Gaius is making me nervous.