Holy now a bannable spell.

[ShariusTC]

there are alot of thing that legal by law, but if you abuse it to harass ppl, you getting arrest, it doesn't need to be a genius to unerstand it, where your ToS in these case?

[AsukaAsakura]

there are alot of thing that legal by law, but if you abuse it to harass ppl, you getting arrest, it doesn't need to be a genius to unerstand it, where your ToS in these case?

Yes, but the only RL comparison you could make is. Someone on a public street started playing music and turning a flash light on and off. This wouldn't be harassment. This wouldn't be illegal. If you called the cops they would tell you to just leave the area.

[ShariusTC]

Yes, but the only RL comparison you could make is. Someone on a public street started playing music and turning a flash light on and off. This wouldn't be harassment. This wouldn't be illegal. If you called the cops they would tell you to just leave the area.

time and place matter, and that guy who getting banned definitely get a bad timming for it

[Keridwyn]

Yes, but the only RL comparison you could make is. Someone on a public street started playing music and turning a flash light on and off. This wouldn't be harassment. This wouldn't be illegal. If you called the cops they would tell you to just leave the area.

Poor allegory because some officers could arrest the person for disturbing the peace or noise violations. While they should just tell the person to move on that's not always what happens sadly.

[AsukaAsakura]

Poor allegory because some officers could arrest the person for disturbing the peace or noise violations. While they should just tell the person to move on that's not always what happens sadly.

Playing music wouldn't be disturbing the peace anywhere I've seen it. I mean, they could even have a permit to play there. The point was, saying that a TOS was similar to legality was the analogy.

[Keridwyn]

Playing music wouldn't be disturbing the peace anywhere I've seen it. I mean, they could even have a permit to play there. The point was, saying that a TOS was similar to legality was the analogy.

Permits are one thing you didn't mention in you original allegory. You said 'standing on a public street playing music turning a flashlight on and off.' I promise you if you were to do that in my town and people complained, cops would come and at least talk to you. I was agreeing that you shouldn't be arrested for it but was pointing out that sometimes people would be arrested for that.

Permit or not if you're doing it at the wrong time of day and you get enough complaints, your chances of being told to just move along go down. Maybe this is a better allegory than I thought after all.

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

Yes, but the only RL comparison you could make is. Someone on a public street started playing music and turning a flash light on and off. This wouldn't be harassment. This wouldn't be illegal. If you called the cops they would tell you to just leave the area.

Noise ordinance and noise nuisance laws exists, depending on when and where they started playing music and flashing a light it definitely would be illegal.

[Jwrigh7784]

Firstly, I suspect there is more to this story than is being told. I mean, why would anyone simply take this person at his word, unless you know him personally and can vouch for what he said happened? I seriously doubt that this player was banned simply for spamming an ability. If I had to guess I would say this person probably has dialogue macroed to his Holy or has done something alongside the spell. I've been playing Final Fantasy XIV since closed beta and I have never seen or heard of someone being banned or action taken for simply using an ability over and over again. There was always something associated with it that caused the action.

Secondly, why are people defending spamming in the first place? Ok, yeah, sure the person can leave but by that logic the person spamming could...oh I don't know...stop spamming. Since spamming serves no purpose whereas hanging around in a city could be for a legitimate reason my opinion is the person spamming should stop, especially if people have made it known they are annoyed by it. This has nothing to do with people looking for reasons to complain or just being whiny crybabies or whatever.

Personally, I think spamming in general, is just immature and, as I mentioned before, serves absolutely no purpose whatsoever aside from personal amusement. Frankly, there are other, less annoying ways to amuse yourself but then I come from a generation of gamers where we were actually respectful and civil to one another. Sadly, those days are gone.