The problem with the mentor system

[Miste]

Really?
Ok, let 's go back to the official definition of "mentor":

In connection with this definition (sorry, it 's not "my expectations") I ask the question again: what can these people teach with crowns on their heads if they don 't know the simplest game mechanics?
These people became mentors because the system allows them to do so.
Because they go to farm recommendations to purchase a beautiful badge and winnings.
Not to help.

Even veteran players make mistakes, you are not making any sense...you realize that right?

I raid savage and even I get hit by random aoes sometimes or forget a mechanic and get hit or die. It doesn't mean I don't know the mechanics normally, but distractions happen, forgetfulness happens, mistakes happen.

If I get hit by a ground AoE does it mean I don't know how to dodge it as a veteran player? No, it just means I was distracted, or I just plain messed up, or I lagged. Plenty of reasons for even veteran players to make mistakes for even simple mechanics. People mess up because we are human and humans are fallible.

Go watch some savage or ultimate videos clears and prog. You'll see even the people doing the hardest content sometimes get hit by things or die by their own mistakes for a lot of different reasons.

Perfection doesn't exist. For anyone. Veteran player or not.

If you 're feeling insecure in your class, a good solution would be not to wear the crown, right?

Just because a mentor might not be super experienced on a job they are playing doesn't mean they can't help with OTHER jobs that newbies might be playing, or help with knowledge of mechanics in dungeons etc.

They can still help people with many things, so why turn it off?

[HeulGDarian]

Even veteran players make mistakes, you are not making any sense...you realize that right?

I raid savage and even I get hit by random aoes sometimes or forget a mechanic and get hit or die. It doesn't mean I don't know the mechanics normally, but distractions happen, forgetfulness happens, mistakes happen.

If I get hit by a ground AoE does it mean I don't know how to dodge it as a veteran player? No, it just means I was distracted, or I just plain messed up, or I lagged. Plenty of reasons for even veteran players to make mistakes for even simple mechanics. People mess up because we are human and humans are fallible.

Go watch some savage or ultimate videos clears and prog. You'll see even the people doing the hardest content sometimes get hit by things or die by their own mistakes for a lot of different reasons.

Perfection doesn't exist. For anyone. Veteran player or not.

Trying to explain with logic to someone whose arguement was created without any logic doesnt want unfortunately

[SoranRigel]

Even veteran players make mistakes, you are not making any sense...you realize that right?

I raid savage and even I get hit by random aoes sometimes or forget a mechanic and get hit or die. It doesn't mean I don't know the mechanics normally, but distractions happen, forgetfulness happens, mistakes happen.

If I get hit by a ground AoE does it mean I don't know how to dodge it as a veteran player? No, it just means I was distracted, or I just plain messed up, or I lagged. Plenty of reasons for even veteran players to make mistakes for even simple mechanics. People mess up because we are human and humans are fallible.

Go watch some savage or ultimate videos clears and prog. You'll see even the people doing the hardest content sometimes get hit by things or die by their own mistakes for a lot of different reasons.

Perfection doesn't exist. For anyone. Veteran player or not.



Just because a mentor might not be super experienced on a job they are playing doesn't mean they can't help with OTHER jobs that newbies might be playing, or help with knowledge of mechanics in dungeons etc.

They can still help people with many things, so why turn it off?

A lot of experienced players make mistakes every day: hit other players, mock beginners, rough in chat and at the same time do not make mechanics. Because of forgetfulness, probably.
I agree, we 're all human. But some people in crowns are particularly disgusting.
Unfortunately, they meet too often.

[EaMett]

Just because a mentor might not be super experienced on a job they are playing doesn't mean they can't help with OTHER jobs that newbies might be playing, or help with knowledge of mechanics in dungeons etc.

They can still help people with many things, so why turn it off?

You can also be knowledgeable on the class you're playing, just mechanically challenged on that job. Leveling an Nth job to 80 after not touching it for 2 years, then once at cap learning how to play it again can be challenging for anyone. Again the crown shouldn't mean that you're proficient in everything. Just in enough that you can help people and want to do so.

[Illy_Peridot]

Just because a mentor might not be super experienced on a job they are playing doesn't mean they can't help with OTHER jobs that newbies might be playing, or help with knowledge of mechanics in dungeons etc.

They can still help people with many things, so why turn it off?

I mean, they can also help people without having the crown on too? I only have mine on when I do my mentor roulettes because it slaps it on me, and I still help people when I don't have the crown on otherwise.