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    the saddest thing about this whole post is that its up to 110 replies (at the time of this post). In most other MMOs this is simply a no-no and the healer (or whoever pulls besides the tank) would be considered an asshole. the post would be flamed and the person posting it would be called all sorts of names until the post is locked by moderators.

    but here for whatever reason there is an actual debate about it, with people ACTUALLY agreeing with the original poster.

    rethink your point of view ... because you're wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcann View Post
    the saddest thing about this whole post is that its up to 110 replies (at the time of this post). In most other MMOs this is simply a no-no and the healer (or whoever pulls besides the tank) would be considered an asshole. the post would be flamed and the person posting it would be called all sorts of names until the post is locked by moderators.

    but here for whatever reason there is an actual debate about it, with people ACTUALLY agreeing with the original poster.

    rethink your point of view ... because you're wrong.
    Yet you're adding another blank reply on top of the 110 without presenting any meaningful arguments whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    Yet you're adding another blank reply on top of the 110 without presenting any meaningful arguments whatsoever.
    because there is no argument to be made

    you do this if you are not a tank you are wrong ... simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcann View Post
    the saddest thing about this whole post is that its up to 110 replies (at the time of this post). In most other MMOs this is simply a no-no and the healer (or whoever pulls besides the tank) would be considered an asshole. the post would be flamed and the person posting it would be called all sorts of names until the post is locked by moderators.

    but here for whatever reason there is an actual debate about it, with people ACTUALLY agreeing with the original poster.

    rethink your point of view ... because you're wrong.
    This occurs because trash mobs are so pitifully weak someone besides the tank can easily live pulling more mobs. And in the case of a healer, can tank them just fine themselves. Like I said earlier, you could be 100 ilvls below the recommended and a small pack would still barely even dent a tank.

    Not saying I necessarily agree with the OP's approach but this is why some DPS and healers pull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    This occurs because trash mobs are so pitifully weak someone besides the tank can easily live pulling more mobs. And in the case of a healer, can tank them just fine themselves. Like I said earlier, you could be 100 ilvls below the recommended and a small pack would still barely even dent a tank.

    Not saying I necessarily agree with the OP's approach but this is why some DPS and healers pull.
    Maybe this is the biggest problem. I wouldn't have made this thread if those absurdly low damage dungeons didn't exist in first place. Imo they should for sure adjust the syncs or increase the damage for some of the older content to make them worthy of being played in a party. Right now some dungeons can easily be done without a tank, or even without healer (at least for 90% of the dungeon).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vulcann View Post
    the saddest thing about this whole post is that its up to 110 replies (at the time of this post). In most other MMOs this is simply a no-no and the healer (or whoever pulls besides the tank) would be considered an asshole. the post would be flamed and the person posting it would be called all sorts of names until the post is locked by moderators.
    but here for whatever reason there is an actual debate about it, with people ACTUALLY agreeing with the original poster.
    rethink your point of view ... because you're wrong.
    In other mmos a tank pulling 1 group at time when he could easily without any problem take more than that would be kicked from the party or called a noob.

    This is all what the entire thread boils down to, into a healer 100% capable of healing everything and tank slowing the team down for no apparent reason.
    Hold 2 groups of mobs by spamming aoe and using cooldowns is not rocket science, everyone and their grandma could do it, no one expects 75%+ percintile type of performance from a tank

    Ofc i dont support healer pulling on their own or anyone running ahead of tank making it harder for him, however in newer dungeons you are only able to pull 2 packs of mobs at time, sometimes 1, so it should come as a standard for a tank to pull wall to wall considering how dumb current dungeons are. In case of tank pulling everything there is no place for a healer to pull more, because he just cant if a tank is doing his job properly.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 02-16-2020 at 08:54 PM.