It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Joven]

Sir that is not the argument I used at all. I ask you refrain from lying/misrepresenting my argument. I am saying that MMO and IRL have similar interactions being they are constructed to be like a world themselves. That being said some features are bound to be derived from our world into theirs. I am not so dumb as to not know the difference. But if you are so naive that you can say they have no similarities then I would say the "save your breath" would be appropriate if I were to try and engage you in conversation.

"Similarities" is the key word right there. The only similarities between the real world and an MMO is the fact that there are lots of different people from all over the world interacting with one another. Sure you can leave an area in the game as you can in the real world if there's something there that you find inappropriate, but the difference is that in a video game you can make changes and additions to the world so you don't have to while in the real world you can't. It's far easier to deal with situations like this in a video game than it is in the real world, that's the whole point. So in effect I'm not "lying" about your argument, I'm just boiling it down to it's most basic component.

[Dan4077]

"Similarities" is the key word right there. The only similarities between the real world and an MMO is the fact that there are lots of different people from all over the world interacting with one another. Sure you can leave an area in the game as you can in the real world if there's something there that you find inappropriate, but the difference is that in a video game you can make changes and additions to the world so you don't have to while in the real world you can't. It's far easier to deal with situations like this in a video game than it is in the real world, that's the whole point. So in effect I'm not "lying" about your argument, I'm just boiling it down to it's most basic component.

Um no you didn't you said and I quote "these people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy" That is the complete opposite of similarities. Its not just "lots of people" MMOs were made to mimic a world. Be different but also similar. You cannot change the real world easy, a game can be modified with some time money and manpower.
However! That is NOT the point I or others were making. You just cannot seem to argue it so you are completely changing it. What we are saying that glamour is very important to people in MMORPGs. People love RPGs cause they can create something that they are NOT! They get to show off their style to other people. They can even take it a step further and role play the character they created. And no not everyone is going to like them. That is just how it works.

[Joven]

Um no you didn't you said and I quote "these people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy" That is the complete opposite of similarities. Its not just "lots of people" MMOs were made to mimic a world. Be different but also similar. You cannot change the real world easy, a game can be modified with some time money and manpower.
However! That is NOT the point I or others were making. You just cannot seem to argue it so you are completely changing it. What we are saying that glamour is very important to people in MMORPGs. People love RPGs cause they can create something that they are NOT! They get to show off their style to other people. They can even take it a step further and role play the character they created. And no not everyone is going to like them. That is just how it works.

You replied to another poster on here about

A massive world encompasses all types of people even ones you also hate sadly. Whether they be cross dressers, furries or w.e. These type of people exist everywhere.

that's where your argument turns to "well they exist in our world therefore they must exist here and you have to accept it" territory. That's where you're wrong and what I was pointing out. Yes people dress the way others find inappropriate in our world and in the virtual one, the difference is on the options given to the observer on how they choose deal with what they're seeing.

It's fine if you enjoy glamouring, glamour to your hearts content, no-one is trying to deny you that, but just because some people may not care to see it doesn't mean they should be forced to and it wouldn't impact your ability to create whatever fashion you so desire.

[Dan4077]

You replied to another poster on here about that's where your argument turns to "well they exist in our world therefore they must exist here and you have to accept it" territory. That's where you're wrong and what I was pointing out. Yes people dress dress the way others find inappropriate in our world and in the virtual one, the difference is on the options given to the observer on how they choose deal with what they're seeing.

It's fine if you enjoy glamouring, glamour to your hearts content, no-one is trying to deny you that, but just because some people may not care to see it doesn't mean they should be forced to and it wouldn't impact your ability to create whatever fashion you so desire.

What is it with you, you are just plowing stuff you made up into others mouths. I never said "well because its exist in IRL it HAS to be in the game!" Can you stop making stuff up in just ONE of you comments at least. All I said was they have SIMILARITIES. Let me copy paste this here definition for you so you do not keep stumbling over yourself to comprehend the word.
sim·i·lar·i·ty
/ˌsiməˈlerədē/
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noun
plural noun: similarities
the state or fact of being similar.
"the similarity of symptoms makes them hard to diagnose"
a similar feature or aspect.
"the similarities between people of different nationalities"

And as for the last part of your statement I already argued this to death. Why play an mmorpg? To play with other people. To create a character and then be able to interact with others with that character. When you come out and ask for an option to deny the person their characters identity, you are ruining an aspect of the game "we" like. Building an identity a character w.e and having others interact with your character is a huge appeal to many people including myself.

[Joven]

What is it with you, you are just plowing stuff you made up into others mouths. I never said "well because its exist in IRL it HAS to be in the game!" Can you stop making stuff up in just ONE of you comments at least. All I said was they have SIMILARITIES. Let me copy paste this here definition for you so you do not keep stumbling over yourself to comprehend the word.
sim·i·lar·i·ty
/ˌsiməˈlerədē/
Learn to pronounce
noun
plural noun: similarities
the state or fact of being similar.
"the similarity of symptoms makes them hard to diagnose"
a similar feature or aspect.
"the similarities between people of different nationalities"

And as for the last part of your statement I already argued this to death. Why play an mmorpg? To play with other people. To create a character and then be able to interact with others with that character. When you come out and ask for an option to deny the person their characters identity, you are ruining an aspect of the game "we" like. Building an identity a character w.e and having others interact with your character is a huge appeal to many people including myself.

Ha, someone is getting a tad overly touchy. It's not that important to get so worked up about.

No-one is denying anyone's character their "identity". You can still glamour as much as you want and other people can see it, just not the ones who opt to use the feature. You can still interact with other people and unless you go out of your way to say "hey, what do you think of my glamour? Isn't it amazing?" nobody is going to know or care about your character's "identity" but you.

[Dan4077]

Ha, someone is getting a tad overly touchy. It's not that important to get so worked up about.

No-one is denying anyone's character their "identity". You can still glamour as much as you want and other people can see it, just not the ones who opt to use the feature. You can still interact with other people and unless you go out of your way to say "hey, what do you think of my glamour? Isn't it amazing?" nobody is going to know or care about your character's "identity" but you.

Is that how you try to win anything? You just claim something out of thin air? Where in my comment did I seem overly touchy or worked up? Everything I said was completely reasonable and in response to retort your comment. I posted the definition because you seem to keep ignoring out of will or ignorance my use of the word. And yes if you add a feature that lets people rip down my characters glamour you have just denied that characters identity. I really do not know how to make it any easier for you to understand. People like everyone to see their glamour. But other people and I say OTHER people were making out like we were forcing them to have intercourse just cause we want our characters be portrayed in the way we designed them.
I will meet them halfway and say they can make the character completely invisible. But no I do not like that idea that you can just alter my character because you don't not like how I made them. At that point it isnt even my character so do not display it at all.

[Joven]

Is that how you try to win anything? You just claim something out of thin air? Where in my comment did I seem overly touchy or worked up? Everything I said was completely reasonable and in response to retort your comment. I posted the definition because you seem to keep ignoring out of will or ignorance my use of the word. And yes if you add a feature that lets people rip down my characters glamour you have just denied that characters identity. I really do not know how to make it any easier for you to understand. People like everyone to see their glamour. But other people and I say OTHER people were making out like we were forcing them to have intercourse just cause we want our characters be portrayed in the way we designed them.
I will meet them halfway and say they can make the character completely invisible. But no I do not like that idea that you can just alter my character because you don not like how I made them. At that point it isnt even my character so do not display it at all.

I'm not trying to "win" anything because there is nothing to win here (and F.Y.I., claiming someone has a comprehension problem and going out of your way to post the definition of a word is a sign of exasperation, which means getting worked up. Just so you know.)

As far as your character's "identity", which you keep using, nobody but you and your friends care about that. Do you think all the random people you run with are going to give 2 seconds worth of thought to your character's supposed form of "expression"? Most people just want to get the content done, collect their reward and bugger off. As I said, unless you go out of your way to show off then most people wouldn't pay a lick of attention to you.