It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Dan4077]

"Similarities" is the key word right there. The only similarities between the real world and an MMO is the fact that there are lots of different people from all over the world interacting with one another. Sure you can leave an area in the game as you can in the real world if there's something there that you find inappropriate, but the difference is that in a video game you can make changes and additions to the world so you don't have to while in the real world you can't. It's far easier to deal with situations like this in a video game than it is in the real world, that's the whole point. So in effect I'm not "lying" about your argument, I'm just boiling it down to it's most basic component.

Um no you didn't you said and I quote "these people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy" That is the complete opposite of similarities. Its not just "lots of people" MMOs were made to mimic a world. Be different but also similar. You cannot change the real world easy, a game can be modified with some time money and manpower.
However! That is NOT the point I or others were making. You just cannot seem to argue it so you are completely changing it. What we are saying that glamour is very important to people in MMORPGs. People love RPGs cause they can create something that they are NOT! They get to show off their style to other people. They can even take it a step further and role play the character they created. And no not everyone is going to like them. That is just how it works.

[MagicPeanut]

Honestly, I’d personally like an option to hide all other players. Not just some, but literally ALL. I get it, it’s an MMORPG, but I’m way more interested in the “RPG” part, rather than the “MMO.” Inside dungeons and the like it’s fine, but outside I’d love to go through the MSQ after an update without watching the NPCs just get bombarded by huge crowds. It’s immersion breaking and INCREDIBLY annoying.

I play the game for the story so I’d love it if this were an option.

[Joven]

Um no you didn't you said and I quote "these people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy" That is the complete opposite of similarities. Its not just "lots of people" MMOs were made to mimic a world. Be different but also similar. You cannot change the real world easy, a game can be modified with some time money and manpower.
However! That is NOT the point I or others were making. You just cannot seem to argue it so you are completely changing it. What we are saying that glamour is very important to people in MMORPGs. People love RPGs cause they can create something that they are NOT! They get to show off their style to other people. They can even take it a step further and role play the character they created. And no not everyone is going to like them. That is just how it works.

You replied to another poster on here about

A massive world encompasses all types of people even ones you also hate sadly. Whether they be cross dressers, furries or w.e. These type of people exist everywhere.

that's where your argument turns to "well they exist in our world therefore they must exist here and you have to accept it" territory. That's where you're wrong and what I was pointing out. Yes people dress the way others find inappropriate in our world and in the virtual one, the difference is on the options given to the observer on how they choose deal with what they're seeing.

It's fine if you enjoy glamouring, glamour to your hearts content, no-one is trying to deny you that, but just because some people may not care to see it doesn't mean they should be forced to and it wouldn't impact your ability to create whatever fashion you so desire.

[XenoSamurai]

I feel like after a week of using it you would find out just how boring and mismatched everyone looks that you would end up turning it off. Most people enjoy seeing people's glams or they don't care, seems like a waste of devs time to me.

[Dan4077]

You replied to another poster on here about that's where your argument turns to "well they exist in our world therefore they must exist here and you have to accept it" territory. That's where you're wrong and what I was pointing out. Yes people dress dress the way others find inappropriate in our world and in the virtual one, the difference is on the options given to the observer on how they choose deal with what they're seeing.

It's fine if you enjoy glamouring, glamour to your hearts content, no-one is trying to deny you that, but just because some people may not care to see it doesn't mean they should be forced to and it wouldn't impact your ability to create whatever fashion you so desire.

What is it with you, you are just plowing stuff you made up into others mouths. I never said "well because its exist in IRL it HAS to be in the game!" Can you stop making stuff up in just ONE of you comments at least. All I said was they have SIMILARITIES. Let me copy paste this here definition for you so you do not keep stumbling over yourself to comprehend the word.
sim·i·lar·i·ty
/ˌsiməˈlerədē/
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noun
plural noun: similarities
the state or fact of being similar.
"the similarity of symptoms makes them hard to diagnose"
a similar feature or aspect.
"the similarities between people of different nationalities"

And as for the last part of your statement I already argued this to death. Why play an mmorpg? To play with other people. To create a character and then be able to interact with others with that character. When you come out and ask for an option to deny the person their characters identity, you are ruining an aspect of the game "we" like. Building an identity a character w.e and having others interact with your character is a huge appeal to many people including myself.

[Joven]

What is it with you, you are just plowing stuff you made up into others mouths. I never said "well because its exist in IRL it HAS to be in the game!" Can you stop making stuff up in just ONE of you comments at least. All I said was they have SIMILARITIES. Let me copy paste this here definition for you so you do not keep stumbling over yourself to comprehend the word.
sim·i·lar·i·ty
/ˌsiməˈlerədē/
Learn to pronounce
noun
plural noun: similarities
the state or fact of being similar.
"the similarity of symptoms makes them hard to diagnose"
a similar feature or aspect.
"the similarities between people of different nationalities"

And as for the last part of your statement I already argued this to death. Why play an mmorpg? To play with other people. To create a character and then be able to interact with others with that character. When you come out and ask for an option to deny the person their characters identity, you are ruining an aspect of the game "we" like. Building an identity a character w.e and having others interact with your character is a huge appeal to many people including myself.

Ha, someone is getting a tad overly touchy. It's not that important to get so worked up about.

No-one is denying anyone's character their "identity". You can still glamour as much as you want and other people can see it, just not the ones who opt to use the feature. You can still interact with other people and unless you go out of your way to say "hey, what do you think of my glamour? Isn't it amazing?" nobody is going to know or care about your character's "identity" but you.

[Early_Lily]

That's the beauty of it being an option. You don't have to 'Go for it.' It'd be my choice, and you wouldn't know about it either way. You get to live your best life being a fem ro wearing a sailor outfit tanking with a fish in your main hand, and I get to play the game without being disgusted looking at you!

You're not wrong. Choice is everything. It literally effects nobody but the user who decides to turn off other persons glam. I'll admit i've seen some horrendous glams. Those frogmen costumes freak me the hell out and make me feel super uncomfortable. If i had a way to turn that off, i'd love to - Without affecting anyone else.

[SleepyNeko]

Don't mind this idea since its just your preference to your game, but I think it might impact computer performance because it need to load both the glamour and the original models of everyone around you.

[VanishingCat]

There have always been "silly" things that people can glamour since the beginning of the game. un-genderlocked dresses oh no! Was it a problem when female characters glam the wedding dress and do combat content? Technically that might be immersion breaking but I've never seen anyone care about that. But now it's a problem since men can wear dresses. In a fantasy world. This is an MMO. Also there's trusts now if you want to do dungeons fully immersed.

[Halivel]

Honestly - no, thanks.

People do their glamours the way they do so people would see their characters just like this. No matter how much people say about glamour being not a content, it takes a big place in community.

No matter how much I don't like all the hundreds of characters running around in bikinis and subligars, I have no right to hide their glamours. Those're their characters and that's how they want them to look.

Also, how is this supposed to work in the first place? If it will be a system where you can replace some concrete items with another items - you do realise that somebody could wear on you something what you don't want your character to wear? If it's something like "toggle = character in starting gear" then maaaaaybe it could work. I quess you can say "I don't care how my character looks to others" but honestly, then you should care even less about how others look to you.

Another question - will it work just on one character or on simply everybody? In 1st case such system is just too much expensive to implement imo, and in 2nd it can ruin literally thousands of glamours around you (including your own, on top of that).

And the last one: how is this different from modding, in fact?