So leaving the instance is your solution? Changing the angle is not feasible if one wants to see the monster in front of them at all. So to you, that would be a more optimal solution than just implementing the feature the OP described that literally harms no one?Yes, we call this third person also something you would hopefully notice before purchasing. And still you can walk away sir, you can zoom in on yourself, change the angle, you can leave the instance. No one but yourself is stopping you from doing any number of these things.



People on here constantly use the "well you can/'t do this IRL so it should be that way in the game" argument all the time. There's no reasoning with them as they're incapable of separating fantasy from reality. Better to just save your breath.
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Sir that is not the argument I used at all. I ask you refrain from lying/misrepresenting my argument. I am saying that MMO and IRL have similar interactions being they are constructed to be like a world themselves. That being said some features are bound to be derived from our world into theirs. I am not so dumb as to not know the difference. But if you are so naive that you can say they have no similarities then I would say the "save your breath" would be appropriate if I were to try and engage you in conversation.
Evil Alice



"Similarities" is the key word right there. The only similarities between the real world and an MMO is the fact that there are lots of different people from all over the world interacting with one another. Sure you can leave an area in the game as you can in the real world if there's something there that you find inappropriate, but the difference is that in a video game you can make changes and additions to the world so you don't have to while in the real world you can't. It's far easier to deal with situations like this in a video game than it is in the real world, that's the whole point. So in effect I'm not "lying" about your argument, I'm just boiling it down to it's most basic component.Sir that is not the argument I used at all. I ask you refrain from lying/misrepresenting my argument. I am saying that MMO and IRL have similar interactions being they are constructed to be like a world themselves. That being said some features are bound to be derived from our world into theirs. I am not so dumb as to not know the difference. But if you are so naive that you can say they have no similarities then I would say the "save your breath" would be appropriate if I were to try and engage you in conversation.
Last edited by Joven; 02-15-2020 at 04:11 PM.
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#ottergate
Um no you didn't you said and I quote "these people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy" That is the complete opposite of similarities. Its not just "lots of people" MMOs were made to mimic a world. Be different but also similar. You cannot change the real world easy, a game can be modified with some time money and manpower."Similarities" is the key word right there. The only similarities between the real world and an MMO is the fact that there are lots of different people from all over the world interacting with one another. Sure you can leave an area in the game as you can in the real world if there's something there that you find inappropriate, but the difference is that in a video game you can make changes and additions to the world so you don't have to while in the real world you can't. It's far easier to deal with situations like this in a video game than it is in the real world, that's the whole point. So in effect I'm not "lying" about your argument, I'm just boiling it down to it's most basic component.
However! That is NOT the point I or others were making. You just cannot seem to argue it so you are completely changing it. What we are saying that glamour is very important to people in MMORPGs. People love RPGs cause they can create something that they are NOT! They get to show off their style to other people. They can even take it a step further and role play the character they created. And no not everyone is going to like them. That is just how it works.
Evil Alice



You replied to another poster on here aboutUm no you didn't you said and I quote "these people can't tell the difference between reality and fantasy" That is the complete opposite of similarities. Its not just "lots of people" MMOs were made to mimic a world. Be different but also similar. You cannot change the real world easy, a game can be modified with some time money and manpower.
However! That is NOT the point I or others were making. You just cannot seem to argue it so you are completely changing it. What we are saying that glamour is very important to people in MMORPGs. People love RPGs cause they can create something that they are NOT! They get to show off their style to other people. They can even take it a step further and role play the character they created. And no not everyone is going to like them. That is just how it works.that's where your argument turns to "well they exist in our world therefore they must exist here and you have to accept it" territory. That's where you're wrong and what I was pointing out. Yes people dress the way others find inappropriate in our world and in the virtual one, the difference is on the options given to the observer on how they choose deal with what they're seeing.
It's fine if you enjoy glamouring, glamour to your hearts content, no-one is trying to deny you that, but just because some people may not care to see it doesn't mean they should be forced to and it wouldn't impact your ability to create whatever fashion you so desire.
Last edited by Joven; 02-15-2020 at 04:49 PM.
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What is it with you, you are just plowing stuff you made up into others mouths. I never said "well because its exist in IRL it HAS to be in the game!" Can you stop making stuff up in just ONE of you comments at least. All I said was they have SIMILARITIES. Let me copy paste this here definition for you so you do not keep stumbling over yourself to comprehend the word.You replied to another poster on here about that's where your argument turns to "well they exist in our world therefore they must exist here and you have to accept it" territory. That's where you're wrong and what I was pointing out. Yes people dress dress the way others find inappropriate in our world and in the virtual one, the difference is on the options given to the observer on how they choose deal with what they're seeing.
It's fine if you enjoy glamouring, glamour to your hearts content, no-one is trying to deny you that, but just because some people may not care to see it doesn't mean they should be forced to and it wouldn't impact your ability to create whatever fashion you so desire.
sim·i·lar·i·ty
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noun
plural noun: similarities
the state or fact of being similar.
"the similarity of symptoms makes them hard to diagnose"
a similar feature or aspect.
"the similarities between people of different nationalities"
And as for the last part of your statement I already argued this to death. Why play an mmorpg? To play with other people. To create a character and then be able to interact with others with that character. When you come out and ask for an option to deny the person their characters identity, you are ruining an aspect of the game "we" like. Building an identity a character w.e and having others interact with your character is a huge appeal to many people including myself.
Yes, and you keep saying it harms no one. Yet explain to me how their outfits actually harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you and the op are saying. You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking. They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.
Evil Alice

how does profanity harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you are saying. You want to see some words, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not comform to your liking. They might as well make it so you cannot see words period.Yes, and you keep saying it harms no one. Yet explain to me how their outfits actually harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you and the op are saying. You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking. They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.
Clever, however it doesn't harm me. I am of the opinion it is pointless to even block it. People will all come to eventually know of/hear it. It is not really harmful in any sense.how does profanity harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you are saying. You want to see some words, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not comform to your liking. They might as well make it so you cannot see words period.
Evil Alice
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