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  1. #61
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shurrikhan View Post
    Perhaps English's Urianger, too, is less "archaic" as just having a larger available vocabulary and different words preferred for particular situations, but again, his style fits into what you'd expect of an educated person of some centuries ago in the same way as his Japanese version seems to, so I don't think they necessarily overly styled him so much as maybe that same imitation requires more changes in English.
    Good point. I'm not sure if he uses harder words than everyone else, or just more hard words per sentence - though I'd have to read the scripts with that question in mind. Add in the conjugated verbs and it's all too much for some people... although once you understand how they work, they can actually add to the clarity of the sentence, as does separating thou and you to indicate whether you're addressing one person or the group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    I remember (native English speakers) complaining about Alisae saying "buoyant" when referring to Alphinaud's inability to swim. People just can't seem to use dictionaries anymore, and apparently missed out on context clues from 5th grade.

    I admittedly don't know every single word that's used because of ye olde English but I think it should be normal to seek the knowledge instead of wallow in indolence and ignorance.
    Seriously though. I see a word I don't know, I take maybe five seconds to Google it and move on. And half of that is opening the browser to do it, if it isn't already open.

    No. Too hard. Must complain words big, much easier.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    Remember, people, you have at your fingertips the greatest public repository of information in the history of humanity. It can, in fact, be used for more than memes and porn.
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    If someone's main language is not English then yes some of the words may seem odd - then again I have seen some non-native English speakers use correct words but words that most would consider archaic in today's world. The thing is I consider the use of complex words and grammar to be a bonus for such people as it broadens their horizons and introduces them to new words in this crazy language that quite often makes no sense whatsoever.
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    Last edited by Bearded; 01-17-2020 at 10:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    I still think Urianger is just putting on an act or trolling or something. That takes some genuine effort to maintain that speech pattern despite literally nobody else anywhere ever speaking in a similar manner. Worse, he explicitly knows the people around him often have some minor difficulty in deciphering what he's saying, and yet still insists on being as archaically verbose as possible.

    Dude's been in Eorzea long enough to pick up on the fact that he should probably consider learning how to converse with the locals a bit more efficiently.
    Well, actually no.

    Urianger is a researcher, seeking critical information about Primals. The other Scions are keenly interested in discerning facts from lore, and Urianger knows the importance of precise expression, leaving no room for ambiguity.

    It would be foolish for any of them to discuss matters in layman’s terms (since misunderstanding leads to death), though I suppose Thancred’s manner reveals a touch of his criminal background.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tohe-Spidhire View Post
    Well, actually no.

    Urianger is a researcher, seeking critical information about Primals. The other Scions are keenly interested in discerning facts from lore, and Urianger knows the importance of precise expression, leaving no room for ambiguity.
    A lot of his more obscure pronouncements is quoting old prophecies and the like - most of which are extremely ambiguous.

    Urianger's problem is that he spends far too much time with really old books, and not much time with other people.
    Think of him as someone who spends most of his time studying 16th century literature (Shakespeare and contemporaries) in the original language, and only occasionally mingles with ordinary mortals. It would be practically impossible for someone like that to not have their language coloured by their reading material.
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    I think its refreshing. Not everything needs to be written at a 5th grade reading level.
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    It's sad how much colour and information people miss because they're not interested enough in learning to go and look things up. And this in an age when looking something up is as easy as pressing a button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    It's sad how much colour and information people miss because they're not interested enough in learning to go and look things up. And this in an age when looking something up is as easy as pressing a button.
    More than that, if you consider the players that click-through without reading, and those that avoid “unnecessary” side-quest content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by monk-dps View Post
    It's the voice acting in English that kills me. It sounds like a high school play with their over pronounced old English accents. I got so sick of hearing words like MAYHAP when they could've used maybe or something more used.
    I personally like it when they use stuff like "mayhap" and "anyroad", I think it adds to the immersion
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    It's the Asstral Calamity, wrought by the dread primal Bahabutt.

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