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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein View Post
    I'm not oblivious to creeps being in every game I play. I know that not everyone sees loli/shota type of characters the same as the next person. The main point I was getting at is, it's not a big deal. That's like when people were saying Hrothgar should've never been added because it would only attract those who see that entire race as a fetish. If every time developers allow the presence of creeps (or people bothered by them) to dictate what race they should add, in order to avoid creeps as much as possible, we would probably only have Hyur and even that's questionable.

    If SE has a certain image of characters that they want in their game and want to strictly follow that then fine. I'll respect it. But it begs the question of where is this line being drawn for another short race to be added? Can they not just whip up a lore and give them a non-child related presence? Could they not just give them features that clearly differentiate from a normal kid like they do Lalafell?

    Au Ra is a race that is completely unique to this series and I would love it if they kept it going by adding another unique race that's short. I'm not asking for a child race, I'm specifically asking for another short race, that does not have a teddy bear-like body. Lala's have that covered lol
    Tbh by consequences I mean more potentional blacklash than creeps. Creeps are pretty much everywhere, so it's impossible to avoid them completely - you can have the game full of bulky monsters and it still will have its creepy part of community.

    But in regards to people just in general, those who don't even play the game but will see a short cute race combined with humanity's love to jump on disgusting conclusions can start their crusade against the company just because they can. I mean... Some people in other game (Granblue Fantasy if it matters) assumed I'm a creep few days ago just because I like cute characters, and some of them are minors. People are... well, they are people.

    I am agree that we should either have bigger height slider or one more short race, but I also can see potential problems behind this, sadly. At this point I'm glad I was able to set my irl height on my character at all, which is 160cm. It would be good if it was possible to make shorter than average male character not only for Lalafells and Miqo'te, and partly Midlanders. I could go with female character of course, but I don't play female characters even though I am female myself, so welp... good for me that I like male Miqo'te, otherwise there is a chance I wouldn't have suitable race in the game at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Tbh by consequences I mean more potentional blacklash than creeps. Creeps are pretty much everywhere, so it's impossible to avoid them completely - you can have the game full of bulky monsters and it still will have its creepy part of community.

    But in regards to people just in general, those who don't even play the game but will see a short cute race combined with humanity's love to jump on disgusting conclusions can start their crusade against the company just because they can. I mean... Some people in other game (Granblue Fantasy if it matters) assumed I'm a creep few days ago just because I like cute characters, and some of them are minors. People are... well, they are people.

    I am agree that we should either have bigger height slider or one more short race, but I also can see potential problems behind this, sadly. At this point I'm glad I was able to set my irl height on my character at all, which is 160cm. It would be good if it was possible to make shorter than average male character not only for Lalafells and Miqo'te, and partly Midlanders. I could go with female character of course, but I don't play female characters even though I am female myself, so welp... good for me that I like male Miqo'te, otherwise there is a chance I wouldn't have suitable race in the game at all.
    You bring up an interesting point with backlash, much like a while back someone brought up their reputation could possibly be put on the line. I get where you are going with that.

    For me when I read their statement about why they did not want to add in this option it instantly made me think of all the other games that already have a small race that we're asking for. I'm pretty sure they received backlash but it most certainly is not stopping them from expanding their games and even launching them on more platforms. When I see things like this it almost made me think SE just whipped up an excuse and called it a day. Backlash can't possibly last for that long with the number of players that love and defend this game. And then there's all the rewards and recognition they keep receiving that easily sweeps any backlash off a cliff.

    And, lol I can't agree enough that people will always be people. I think I am almost to the point of being immune to people being people because I see it so often. I just can't give any more flying birds about it.

    But characters in this game could use some serious variety. The amount of male characters that compete with skyscrapers in this game is starting to become staggering. Female characters have a little variety with height and cutesy to non-cutesy type but it still leaves some out there wanting of either something more ferocious or something like what I want. If they could redesign the character customization to something impressive that allows way more options I'll be all for it. But if they decide that adding races is easier than we need way more variety to work with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein View Post
    For me when I read their statement about why they did not want to add in this option it instantly made me think of all the other games that already have a small race that we're asking for. I'm pretty sure they received backlash but it most certainly is not stopping them from expanding their games and even launching them on more platforms. When I see things like this it almost made me think SE just whipped up an excuse and called it a day. Backlash can't possibly last for that long with the number of players that love and defend this game. And then there's all the rewards and recognition they keep receiving that easily sweeps any backlash off a cliff.
    Well... it is an excuse. Pretty much everything what company will say to justify something they don't want to do is an excuse. Main question here is how reasonable it is from players perspective.

    But characters in this game could use some serious variety. The amount of male characters that compete with skyscrapers in this game is starting to become staggering. Female characters have a little variety with height and cutesy to non-cutesy type but it still leaves some out there wanting of either something more ferocious or something like what I want. If they could redesign the character customization to something impressive that allows way more options I'll be all for it. But if they decide that adding races is easier than we need way more variety to work with.
    The fact we need more variety is out of question. I don't think they will add one more race, though... even adding missing counterparts for Viera and Hrothgars is under guestion, designing one more race is probably almost impossible. Seeing the rework for character creator would be nice and has more chances to be done, although probably still guite low. I quess we can only continue to ask for it without much hope for success.
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