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    Quote Originally Posted by Yencat View Post
    You're a female Au Ra though? Not sure how much more small and frail you could get.
    Possible at least in height. We still have the gap of about 50 cm between minimum female Au Ra (148 cm) and maximum Lalafells (90+ or near to this) that isn't touched by any race.

    Quote Originally Posted by AngeliouxRein View Post
    In anime MMOs they're simply known as a loli/shota and every one of those games nails it. But somehow, SE went all around it.
    That's just an assumption, but looking how some people react at Lalafells, female Auri and female Miqo'te, western part of community, most likely, is pretty much the reason why we don't have anything inbetween Lalafells and Auri. To avoid undesireable... consequences.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    That's just an assumption, but looking how some people react at Lalafells, female Auri and female Miqo'te, western part of community, most likely, is pretty much the reason why we don't have anything inbetween Lalafells and Auri. To avoid undesireable... consequences.
    I'm not oblivious to creeps being in every game I play. I know that not everyone sees loli/shota type of characters the same as the next person. The main point I was getting at is, it's not a big deal. That's like when people were saying Hrothgar should've never been added because it would only attract those who see that entire race as a fetish. If every time developers allow the presence of creeps (or people bothered by them) to dictate what race they should add, in order to avoid creeps as much as possible, we would probably only have Hyur and even that's questionable.

    If SE has a certain image of characters that they want in their game and want to strictly follow that then fine. I'll respect it. But it begs the question of where is this line being drawn for another short race to be added? Can they not just whip up a lore and give them a non-child related presence? Could they not just give them features that clearly differentiate from a normal kid like they do Lalafell?

    Au Ra is a race that is completely unique to this series and I would love it if they kept it going by adding another unique race that's short. I'm not asking for a child race, I'm specifically asking for another short race, that does not have a teddy bear-like body. Lala's have that covered lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Possible at least in height. We still have the gap of about 50 cm between minimum female Au Ra (148 cm) and maximum Lalafells (90+ or near to this) that isn't touched by any race.
    The perfect size for a manlet viera!
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    Last edited by TwiibieTwuu; 01-07-2020 at 03:02 PM.

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    Honest question. Why is this even a request? Why would you want to play as a child?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Honest question. Why is this even a request? Why would you want to play as a child?
    I'm not in the squad who wants to play as a child personally, but for the same reason people want to play specific races or genders: just because they want. Maybe that's how their character's lore is.

    There are also most likely teenagers (the game is 12+ after all, even though in my country it's actually 18+ but meh) who would like to be able to create a character more appropriate to their own age, though I doubt they sit at this Forum. At least when I was 13, and that's when I started to play MMO games, I tried to make young looking characters because that was appropriate for me then.

    Also, and it's not really an argument, but I quess it can affect the demand somwhere in its core, FF14 is a Japanese game and not the small part of its playerbase is into Japanese animation industry, where main characters are often middle or high school students so it just doesn't look like something unnatural to have such an option.

    But these are just thoughts of why some people would want to play as younger character, I can't say for sure what different people think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Honest question. Why is this even a request? Why would you want to play as a child?
    The first time I encountered Padjal I wanted to play as one. I still would if it were an option but there's no reason, any more than there's a reason why I choose Elezen, Lalafell, and Miquote over the other races.

    My husband was surprised when I mentioned it (about the Padjal) and said something about how they're kids but I was surprised in turn because I don't understand why that makes any difference. For the sake of clarity I do get some of the arguments people pose against playable children of the existing races (and don't believe it's a worthwhile endeavor) but that's another subject altogether.

    When I started writing this I had it in my mind that I'd provide some sort of enlightenment. The more I think back on that conversation with my husband the more I'm reminded the one thing I took away from it is that you're either bothered by the idea or baffled as to why anyone sees it as strange.

    Well, so much for my plan of adding anything substantial....at any rate, I like small, cute characters regardless whatever lore they come up with to explain their existence. I'm mostly indifferent to that, as it pertains to player characters anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPuff View Post
    The first time I encountered Padjal I wanted to play as one. I still would if it were an option but there's no reason, any more than there's a reason why I choose Elezen, Lalafell, and Miquote over the other races.

    My husband was surprised when I mentioned it (about the Padjal) and said something about how they're kids but I was surprised in turn because I don't understand why that makes any difference. For the sake of clarity I do get some of the arguments people pose against playable children of the existing races (and don't believe it's a worthwhile endeavor) but that's another subject altogether.

    When I started writing this I had it in my mind that I'd provide some sort of enlightenment. The more I think back on that conversation with my husband the more I'm reminded the one thing I took away from it is that you're either bothered by the idea or baffled as to why anyone sees it as strange.

    Well, so much for my plan of adding anything substantial....at any rate, I like small, cute characters regardless whatever lore they come up with to explain their existence. I'm mostly indifferent to that, as it pertains to player characters anyway.
    I understand where you are coming from, but I guess the reason why it bothers me is because I know how the internet is. Take one walk through Limsa Lominsa and look at all the ERP going down (at least in NA, not sure how it is in EU or JP).

    Playing as a child is different than playing as a different race or gender because I feel like they will be used in sexual situations and often dressed provocatively. And the RP will just be really weird.

    I have no doubt that this will be a very small minority as most people that want to play as children probably just want to for aesthetic reasons and nothing more. But all it takes is one or two doing something tawdry, someone posts it on social media, and just like that SE has a PR nightmare on their hands.

    I will say that in all my years playing MMOs I have never seen this request until I started playing FFXIV. So, admittedly, this is very weird to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    I understand where you are coming from, but I guess the reason why it bothers me is because I know how the internet is. Take one walk through Limsa Lominsa and look at all the ERP going down (at least in NA, not sure how it is in EU or JP).

    Playing as a child is different than playing as a different race or gender because I feel like they will be used in sexual situations and often dressed provocatively. And the RP will just be really weird.

    I have no doubt that this will be a very small minority as most people that want to play as children probably just want to for aesthetic reasons and nothing more. But all it takes is one or two doing something tawdry, someone posts it on social media, and just like that SE has a PR nightmare on their hands.

    I will say that in all my years playing MMOs I have never seen this request until I started playing FFXIV. So, admittedly, this is very weird to me.
    I don't put much thought into what other people are up to...like the erp you mentioned in Limsa...I'm aware people are doing something there but as long as it's not being broadcast in chat (which it normally isn't when I'm there) I don't really notice.

    Many of the female player characters I see in the game look about sixteen, if I think about it, but I guess I'm supposed to assume they're older. That's what strikes me as strangest about the whole thing, there's already an abundance of very young girls of unknown age everywhere in the game. My mom plays and her Au Ra girl looks about the same age as my daughter! Of course I know her character is an adult because I was teasing her about the apparent age difference between her and my dad's characters. Lol

    Anyway, aside from how it sounds "on paper" to people who will never actually play, I don't get the big deal over having "official" underage characters when anyone could be playing a fifteen or sixteen year old. That's why I keep reading these threads, knowing full well people will never agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SugarPuff View Post
    Anyway, aside from how it sounds "on paper" to people who will never actually play, I don't get the big deal over having "official" underage characters when anyone could be playing a fifteen or sixteen year old. That's why I keep reading these threads, knowing full well people will never agree!
    No. Some people want to play as actual children, not something that might look young. A child. As in, literally. A human-like child. So not the lalafell weird produce toddler aesthetic, but human.
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