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    I do believe that its bad that the streamer did badmouth that person but until recently SE never took any outside information to punish people and I am not sure if I like that they suddenly are allowed to do that. Especially if they still turn a blind eye to famous raiders that are using parsers for their raids.

    So if they do suddenly take outside information than be clear about this and fair. First tell us about this so that people can take actions (like not showing their streams with parsers) but also that everyone needs to "fear" this and not turn a blind eye on certain cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I do believe that its bad that the streamer did badmouth that person but until recently SE never took any outside information to punish people and I am not sure if I like that they suddenly are allowed to do that. Especially if they still turn a blind eye to famous raiders that are using parsers for their raids.

    So if they do suddenly take outside information than be clear about this and fair. First tell us about this so that people can take actions (like not showing their streams with parsers) but also that everyone needs to "fear" this and not turn a blind eye on certain cases.
    I don't think his ban was about the parser at all. He was a complete and utter jerk, had a special window set up that put act in the middle with a booing crowd effect, and ranted about the guy publicly.

    He then complained that "they'll ban my character but let me play another account. I'm still going to trash talk players, if they don't want me to do that they shouldn't let me play at all"

    Clearly he's not one who just did this in the moment, he had a whole setup for shaming people and it sounds like he does it often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I don't think his ban was about the parser at all. He was a complete and utter jerk, had a special window set up that put act in the middle with a booing crowd effect, and ranted about the guy publicly.

    He then complained that "they'll ban my character but let me play another account. I'm still going to trash talk players, if they don't want me to do that they shouldn't let me play at all"

    Clearly he's not one who just did this in the moment, he had a whole setup for shaming people and it sounds like he does it often.
    No he may not have been punished because of the parser but he could only truly bad mouth that player because of having one. And as we know parser are against the Tos. Right now people are save from punishment because before that SE did not take outside informations as something to punish but that line has blurred now.

    So if they are fair and are now using outside information, anyone streaming with a parser should theoretically be punished. Because they are using something which is against the ToS. If they turn a blind eye on that (and Yoshida and his teams are probably watching such streams for world first clears) but do punish someone else then they are purely biased.

    Also this means that they somehow until now also turned a blind eye to any other evidence about hacking or botting yet somehow followed that one example through..
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