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  1. #1
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    The amount of "they did this deliberately! They wrecked the one thing we care about because they hate us!" is probably why they don't value feedback from the English forums.

    They fixed a previous problem. The fix has introduced new problems.

    Can't we just tell them "this new thing broke, can you fix it" and see what they do about it before fetching the pitchforks?

    There's certainly no way the glitched legs are going to be left looking like that. I would expect it to be fixed in the next patch, hopefully with a bit more testing than it seems to have had the first time - but if it develops new and different glitches again, just post a bug report. They've worked out how to provide a thing we asked for (actual skin-toned stockings) which may be crashing into one of their other systems.

    And for those accusing SE of putting time and effort into "ruining" the 2B pants for you? I suspect it's the opposite: they took what they thought was a shortcut by simply making it turn off existing parts of the model when worn under longer gear. Most likely the fault - as with the Quaintrelle's skirt - is how they define longer gear. Nobody decided it should display like that with specific equipment; it's a decision made possibly years ago that waist decorations won't be visible under that chest gear.

    Also, it's possible that the person adjusting the model has different priorities to you. Say they were handed the instructions "stop this from clipping through the wedding dress, and make the stockings transparent" (both issues formally filed as bug reports on the forums). They did that job as instructed, they fixed the known bug, and they certainly didn't do it to spite you all.

    If they actually wanted to ruin it, they would have done it to the base model, not just what it does when combined with gear.
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    VirusOnline's Avatar
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    Yoshi Papa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The amount of "they did this deliberately! They wrecked the one thing we care about because they hate us!" is probably why they don't value feedback from the English forums.

    They fixed a previous problem. The fix has introduced new problems.

    Can't we just tell them "this new thing broke, can you fix it" and see what they do about it before fetching the pitchforks?
    Are you asking people to think logically and be make sane comments ? This is just too much. I want what I want and I want it now.
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The amount of "they did this deliberately! They wrecked the one thing we care about because they hate us!" is probably why they don't value feedback from the English forums.
    Exactly. Me getting replies like this.. THIS:

    Quote Originally Posted by plasmacutter View Post
    Coming to a thread where the majority want this regression fixed and claiming "the butt was never intended" is gaslighting.
    Watch out everybody! You post a differing opinion from the majority you are breaking the ToS! These are the English forums.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    They fixed a previous problem. The fix has introduced new problems.

    Can't we just tell them "this new thing broke, can you fix it" and see what they do about it before fetching the pitchforks?

    There's certainly no way the glitched legs are going to be left looking like that. I would expect it to be fixed in the next patch, hopefully with a bit more testing than it seems to have had the first time - but if it develops new and different glitches again, just post a bug report. They've worked out how to provide a thing we asked for (actual skin-toned stockings) which may be crashing into one of their other systems.

    And for those accusing SE of putting time and effort into "ruining" the 2B pants for you? I suspect it's the opposite: they took what they thought was a shortcut by simply making it turn off existing parts of the model when worn under longer gear. Most likely the fault - as with the Quaintrelle's skirt - is how they define longer gear. Nobody decided it should display like that with specific equipment; it's a decision made possibly years ago that waist decorations won't be visible under that chest gear.

    Also, it's possible that the person adjusting the model has different priorities to you. Say they were handed the instructions "stop this from clipping through the wedding dress, and make the stockings transparent" (both issues formally filed as bug reports on the forums). They did that job as instructed, they fixed the known bug, and they certainly didn't do it to spite you all.
    The butt is still there on everything, but long tops. This was a fix from probably a utilitarian perspective. They were probably told, bug reports of clipping, so they make the butt not clip. I completely agree.

    Oh wait, I can't post that. I am still "gas lighting" I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    If they actually wanted to ruin it, they would have done it to the base model, not just what it does when combined with gear.
    Here ya go with making perfect sense and providing facts and logic. That kind of talk isn't normal 'round these parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    The amount of "they did this deliberately! They wrecked the one thing we care about because they hate us!" is probably why they don't value feedback from the English forums.

    They fixed a previous problem. The fix has introduced new problems.

    Can't we just tell them "this new thing broke, can you fix it" and see what they do about it before fetching the pitchforks?
    Well, they were told about Quaintrelle's skirt back in May of 2018 and it remains the same, so "let's wait and see" doesn't seem like an effective strategy.
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