Limited Job #2: Beastmaster

[Eli85]

Don't have to work at SE to see that content who only reward are poetics and seals isn't worth the time. Limited Jobs are a flawed idea. If they could use DF maybe they could work, but right now people will play it for the first few weeks then there is no reason to go back to it. If you think months of Dev time and resources is worth a few weeks of play time ( where many of the players are complaining that the content isn't fun or even worth it) I don't know what to tell you.

This logic is so flawed it's comical. So, you surveyed every single active player, and they all told you that they play it for a few weeks then see no reason to get back to it? I doubt this. Maybe you feel this way? Possibly. Or your friends? FC? Or you think some forum goers think this and then you apply it to everyone? What a place we're in.

You know who actually knows about these things? The developers internal metrics. So why don't we let them read their metrics and let them make decisions on what people actually play and for how long? It's a much better determination than your anecdotal evidence.

[SturmChurro]

Scared me with that tittle. I thought they had announced a new limited job somewhere. Heck to the no to that.

[DumdogsWorld]

I really wouldn't mind more limited jobs if Square Enix simply stepped forward and made one thing perfectly clear - limited jobs are for ****s and giggles.

No more of this "it's a real job, but not a real job." Just flat-out say it - limited jobs are for nothing other than goofing off.

Also, if by some extremely slim chance they actually do add something like this, then they also need to add a minion master job.



I already have an army.

[Alleo]

Well, excuse me for posting. Didn't realize I would get so much negativity. Anyway for the moderators to just remove this topic then. Obviously, it is of no interest to anyone.

Well its a discussion forum so of course you will be getting those that agree with you and those that dont. Thats pretty normal. And seeing how the job is barely played and how big the backlash was with the release of the first limited job its not surprising that a lot might not like another job behind it. (Its funny how even some of those that were for limited job disliked it after release because it was not even that OP for being a solo job..and those that wanted a pure solo job were also disappointed because a lot of it is locked behind group content)

I also against another limited job..the extra content for blue is really boring..the job feels like spamming certain skills over and over again while the rest are mostly just the same with a different name..and on top of that the devs need to put time to update it..time and man power that could have been used for other content. More limited jobs will just mean that even more time is spent on something that is death quite fast.

Beastmaster can never become a normal job, simply because the amount of monsters you'd be able to get would have to be limited to 2-4, and would be gotten only through job quests. That's not beastmaster, that's a variant of FFXIV's Summoner.

Blue can also not learn every spell in existence and some of its spell are restricted to job quests..so not sure why this would be an argument against having a normal beast master. Have 2-4 beasts that you get through quests and that you can use with group content and then on top of that you can have your collection of more beasts. I mean what much can you do with blue right now? Collect some spells and then throw them against the carneval. That might keep some busy but that is not long living content. For what would limited beast master be used after they got their beasts? Their own carneval? Why not have them as normal job and side content? Heck give every job their own specific kind of side content.

Edit:

And for those that say we are the minority and that more people enjoyed it, here some data from the lucky bancho Feb. 19

Blue Mage leveling numbers: png
It seems 46.3% (EU) / 48.2% (NA) / 53.1% (JP) of currently active characters per region have unlocked Blue Mage and 17.8% (EU) / 18.6% (NA) / 27.3% (JP) of currently active characters per region have reached level 50 on BLU.

Not even half the people have unlocked it at that time and NA+EU have not even reached 20% of players that have reached lvl 50 on it..probably the easiest part on playing blue.

And because I am curious: All those who like limited jobs: How often did you really play blue? Do you play it regularly? Have all skills unlocked? I mean its great if you do but I wonder how many truly play this often enough.

[Auryan]

I really wouldn't mind more limited jobs if Square Enix simply stepped forward and made one thing perfectly clear - limited jobs are for ****s and giggles.

No more of this "it's a real job, but not a real job." Just flat-out say it - limited jobs are for nothing other than goofing off.

Also, if by some extremely slim chance they actually do add something like this, then they also need to add a minion master job.



I already have an army.

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[He-Saiyan]

Regardless, the interest in BST is clearly here. This job has some of the most active threads on the forum...And it is not even an official job in the game lol.

Limited or not, just don't mess it up like Matsui is doing BST in FFXI. Make it a good job. If it is good, people will play it regardless.

[Kusanagi7]

whenever i think of beastmaster in 14 for some reason i think of pokemon.

[HiroesX81]

Well, excuse me for posting. Didn't realize I would get so much negativity. Anyway for the moderators to just remove this topic then. Obviously, it is of no interest to anyone.

I wouldnt get upset about it tbh. Alot of people Feel BLU would be better in the DF so thats mostly the crowd youre gonna get a response from since they feel the devs arent listening to them. I personally wouldnt mind beastmaster tbh. I feel like after getting another healer we arent gonna need that many new jobs next expansion. But first they need to deal with ironing out the issues they currently have. Personally looking forward to BLU myself

[Reinha]

Beastmaster can never become a normal job, simply because the amount of monsters you'd be able to get would have to be limited to 2-4, and would be gotten only through job quests. That's not beastmaster, that's a variant of FFXIV's Summoner.

Bard can never become a normal job, simply because the amount of songs you'd be able to play would have to be limited to 2-3, and would be gotten only through job quests.

[ForteNightshade]

Yes, lets toss away a system instead of working on it, making it better, perfecting it. I'd rather them make a system better than leave it out to dry. The first is a process of willing to make it work and possibly come up with a few ideas that can lead to them eventually being normal jobs or make current jobs better. The second is basically wasting code, diminishing people's attempts to make something unique, and comes across as a thought process that eventually leads to no innovation because you're so terrified of failure.

Blue Mage released almost a year ago and they have done precisely nothing to improve upon the myriad of problems. The upcoming patch serves to only add a glorified Wondrous Tales knock off. Since we don't know the full details, this could pan out better than anticipated but this is where the dev team needs to make an impact with Limited Jobs. If Blue Mage is once again relegated to something mildly entertaining for a week before being ignored for 7+ months, it shows—in my opinion, at very least—they simply aren't able or willing to dedicate enough time to make it worthwhile.

Simply put, let's see if they can make Blue Mage fun before discussing a second Limited Job because as of now... it's not a well received addition.