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    Quote Originally Posted by DynnDiablos View Post
    Well, excuse me for posting. Didn't realize I would get so much negativity. Anyway for the moderators to just remove this topic then. Obviously, it is of no interest to anyone.
    It's not that. A lot of people would love Beastmaster.
    It's the simple fact you suggested it to be a Limited Job
    which nearly no one ever wants to see again because of BLU.
    If you said for it to be a normal Job, that'll be fine.

    That said, no to limited, yes to normal job from me lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jybril View Post
    It's not that. A lot of people would love Beastmaster.
    It's the simple fact you suggested it to be a Limited Job
    which nearly no one ever wants to see again because of BLU.
    If you said for it to be a normal Job, that'll be fine.

    That said, no to limited, yes to normal job from me lol.
    Beastmaster can never become a normal job, simply because the amount of monsters you'd be able to get would have to be limited to 2-4, and would be gotten only through job quests. That's not beastmaster, that's a variant of FFXIV's Summoner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Beastmaster can never become a normal job, simply because the amount of monsters you'd be able to get would have to be limited to 2-4, and would be gotten only through job quests. That's not beastmaster, that's a variant of FFXIV's Summoner.
    You have a pretty limited scope if you think thats the only way they can implement beast master. In some iterations of beastmaster they keep the animals in magic cages and release them for individual attacks, expanding on this you could have a class that every gcd and off gcd is a different beast that you unleash for that attack, that ways you can have as many beasts as you have attacks. I believe only ffxi used the approach of beasts being more permanent pets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Beastmaster can never become a normal job, simply because the amount of monsters you'd be able to get would have to be limited to 2-4, and would be gotten only through job quests. That's not beastmaster, that's a variant of FFXIV's Summoner.
    Bard can never become a normal job, simply because the amount of songs you'd be able to play would have to be limited to 2-3, and would be gotten only through job quests.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    Bard can never become a normal job, simply because the amount of songs you'd be able to play would have to be limited to 2-3, and would be gotten only through job quests.
    Choose exactly 3 monster types (Couerls, Flans, Wolves, Tonberries, Marlboros, etc etc) out of the X many we have in this game to control, and now explain to everybody else why the types they want aren't making the cut. That is why I'm certain it's not going to be made into a normal job in this game, there would be far too much complaining over certain types not being controllable, or why couldn't all of them be controllable, etc etc. The devs can't win in that situation. Sure they can't win in a Limited Job situation either, but would you rather have a faux Beastmaster or a real one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    Sure they can't win in a Limited Job situation either, but would you rather have a faux Beastmaster or a real one?
    Why can Bard play real life music and even player made songs for other players and is still able to participate in pve and pvp content?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    False equivalence. Bard playing those songs does not effect battles. Beastmaster controlling monsters does, due to their ability to control almost everything.
    Bard has songs which affect battle and songs which don't. It's a functional job with a "limited job" gimmick. This is a false dichotomy:

    Quote Originally Posted by RyuDragnier View Post
    would you rather have a faux Beastmaster or a real one?
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