Why do you like this game?

[Timberlion]

Bunny Girls.

[Sated]

Nearly 15 years of WoW couldn't do what this game managed to in under a patch cycle once I made a WoL that clicked with me.
The story and how it's told, the characters and how they interact, my WoL, the world itself, the graphics and art style... the music. All of it.

And while they matter a great deal to me, my grievances with the game are very few... the pros far outweigh the cons.

Plus catboys.

[zeylos]

WoW's lore is better?, you didnt play BFA, dontcha.

The story is bad. The lord of the Warcraft world migth be the best in any game ever. Its WAy more deep than XIV, and XIV's is GREAT, but at least imo, lore-wise, wow is just unbeatable (again, not talkign about story, story wise, wow cant even hope to stand a chance against xiv's amazing writting)

[Yshtola]

Watching the money pile up.

[Omymy]

The story is bad. The lord of the Warcraft world migth be the best in any game ever. Its WAy more deep than XIV, and XIV's is GREAT, but at least imo, lore-wise, wow is just unbeatable (again, not talkign about story, story wise, wow cant even hope to stand a chance against xiv's amazing writting)

No.

In fact the very creators of that lore do not respect it. What's more, now it turns out that everything you've been told "might not have been like that" because it's the vision of the titans.

And to have to read books out of the game because the game itself doesn't know how to tell his own story is sad, to say the least. Maybe extensive, but of quality... rather low.

[linay]

The story is bad. The lord of the Warcraft world migth be the best in any game ever. Its WAy more deep than XIV, and XIV's is GREAT, but at least imo, lore-wise, wow is just unbeatable (again, not talkign about story, story wise, wow cant even hope to stand a chance against xiv's amazing writting)

Unfortunately, that lore is also at odds with gameplay. Any lore that is used to restrict class and race combination is just bad lore (same with FFXIV's lore to explain gender availability, though at least there is hope there).

Deep lore is good for a story-only medium, like book/movie/tv/etc, not when it would impact gameplay like in a video game and even the story of the game itself. Like how, lorewise, the player character in WoW doesn't really exist, even though the gameplay story centers around what the player character does.

[zeylos]

No.

In fact the very creators of that lore do not respect it. What's more, now it turns out that everything you've been told "might not have been like that" because it's the vision of the titans.

And to have to read books out of the game because the game itself doesn't know how to tell his own story is sad, to say the least. Maybe extensive, but of quality... rather low.

Like I said, the story (which for me, how the lore moves on forward is part of) is certainly not the best (I do still like it personally, but objectively its bad writting just to get on recmmended pages on youtube tbh) but the world of warcraft (not the mmo, but the game saga's lore) is so so so so much more in depth than XIV. Its a lot more abundant, and XIV kindaaa copies a lot of things from it, like many others. After all, WoW's storytelling and lore direction is clunky at best, but as a world, Aezroth is just more amazing than Eorzea imo (I really like Eorzea though, this is my main game after all). Plus on some things the devs of XIV also do some extremely onsensical things (the reason why viera are leaving the forest is because ther world is in danger. Ok. But for whatever reason only the females do so, weh nby lore, it would be much more common for a male to just feel so tired of that lifestyle that they could want to leave. Or how fem hrots are, unless they have lots of babies at once, pregnant for liek their whole life?)

[zeylos]

Unfortunately, that lore is also at odds with gameplay. Any lore that is used to restrict class and race combination is just bad lore (same with FFXIV's lore to explain gender availability, though at least there is hope there).

Deep lore is good for a story-only medium, like book/movie/tv/etc, not when it would impact gameplay like in a video game and even the story of the game itself. Like how, lorewise, the player character in WoW doesn't really exist, even though the gameplay story centers around what the player character does.

I think I worded wrongly. WOW's lore isnt great. Azeroth's is. Eorzea's one, I must say though, is more consistent and you can see how everything connects and there are close to no nonsensical things (just a couple ones) plus it does fit the gameplay until you go to the mogstation (like riding in odin's horse or a giant fat cat lol)

[Omymy]

Like I said, the story (which for me, how the lore moves on forward is part of) is certainly not the best (I do still like it personally, but objectively its bad writting just to get on recmmended pages on youtube tbh) but the world of warcraft (not the mmo, but the game saga's lore) is so so so so much more in depth than XIV. Its a lot more abundant, and XIV kindaaa copies a lot of things from it, like many others. After all, WoW's storytelling and lore direction is clunky at best, but as a world, Aezroth is just more amazing than Eorzea imo (I really like Eorzea though, this is my main game after all). Plus on some things the devs of XIV also do some extremely onsensical things (the reason why viera are leaving the forest is because ther world is in danger. Ok. But for whatever reason only the females do so, weh nby lore, it would be much more common for a male to just feel so tired of that lifestyle that they could want to leave. Or how fem hrots are, unless they have lots of babies at once, pregnant for liek their whole life?)

If WoW respected his lore and was reflected in the game, you might be right, but it's no use having stories that you can't see or experience with your character.

For example, according to the lore, the gnomes recovered Gnomeregan (I don't know the name in English, I'm Spanish). Make one (it's my main race) and you'll see that everything remains the same and that they have no interest in many things.

Then for example you can see things as nonsense as why the Nightborne join the horde or why Sylvanas (the new OP waifu for no reason) burns the tree and destroys the civilian population.

WoW has an extensive and worked lore? yes, it's good for something, you see some of that in the game you can experience? because basically I would say not even 60%.

And as for the world... let's see, if FFXIV had WoW's graphics it could be recreated and create more detailed and extensive worlds, but we're not talking about the same after all.

[Enla]

Because the other MMO's I'm interested in are actively sabotaged or have been in the past by their creators.

The damage Ben Irving did to SWTOR is something the game is still grappling with even years later - and hilariously he's part of why Anthem was so bad imagine that - and while he's long since left the project and Bioware I can't bring myself to fully enjoy that game due to the design decisions he forced upon it. It also isn't helped by the fact that SWTOR at it's core still deals with EA's full on temper tantrum over being forced to go free to play barely a year into it's life cycle and while I don't mind paying a sub for a game, the sheer mount of stuff withheld from you if you don't sub always left a bad taste in my mouth. The game did have a new expansion drop recently however so I'll eventually look back into it once the patch lulls for FF settle in.

On the other hand LoTRO has one of the best stories in any MMO I've played and I loved how they integrated the world of Tolkien into their own personal writings on the characters and the supporting cast you never get to see in the original novels. Yet WB killed that game before selling it off and when I went back recently, happy to try it after the new developer had settled in, what I found was a grind that just completely turned me off from the story. The once non-intrusive cash shop felt way more pushed than before and even though my character was at the climax of the story from when I last left off I just couldn't bring myself to continue. Mind I fully acknowledge a lot of this is likely due to changing tastes - as WB's slow death of the game via the immensely long content droughts pushed me to other games. But it just isn't enjoyable for me anymore.

Of the two I likely will go back to SWTOR at some point but I'd likely drop my sub the second I finished the expansion. Nothing has really hooked me for as long as FF14 did, or inspired me to stick around when RP wasn't of interest. I've tried a lot of other games, WoW included, and I'm just not a fan either.