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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    WoW's lore is better?, you didnt play BFA, dontcha.
    The story is bad. The lord of the Warcraft world migth be the best in any game ever. Its WAy more deep than XIV, and XIV's is GREAT, but at least imo, lore-wise, wow is just unbeatable (again, not talkign about story, story wise, wow cant even hope to stand a chance against xiv's amazing writting)
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    The story is bad. The lord of the Warcraft world migth be the best in any game ever. Its WAy more deep than XIV, and XIV's is GREAT, but at least imo, lore-wise, wow is just unbeatable (again, not talkign about story, story wise, wow cant even hope to stand a chance against xiv's amazing writting)
    No.

    In fact the very creators of that lore do not respect it. What's more, now it turns out that everything you've been told "might not have been like that" because it's the vision of the titans.

    And to have to read books out of the game because the game itself doesn't know how to tell his own story is sad, to say the least. Maybe extensive, but of quality... rather low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Omymy View Post
    No.

    In fact the very creators of that lore do not respect it. What's more, now it turns out that everything you've been told "might not have been like that" because it's the vision of the titans.

    And to have to read books out of the game because the game itself doesn't know how to tell his own story is sad, to say the least. Maybe extensive, but of quality... rather low.
    Like I said, the story (which for me, how the lore moves on forward is part of) is certainly not the best (I do still like it personally, but objectively its bad writting just to get on recmmended pages on youtube tbh) but the world of warcraft (not the mmo, but the game saga's lore) is so so so so much more in depth than XIV. Its a lot more abundant, and XIV kindaaa copies a lot of things from it, like many others. After all, WoW's storytelling and lore direction is clunky at best, but as a world, Aezroth is just more amazing than Eorzea imo (I really like Eorzea though, this is my main game after all). Plus on some things the devs of XIV also do some extremely onsensical things (the reason why viera are leaving the forest is because ther world is in danger. Ok. But for whatever reason only the females do so, weh nby lore, it would be much more common for a male to just feel so tired of that lifestyle that they could want to leave. Or how fem hrots are, unless they have lots of babies at once, pregnant for liek their whole life?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Like I said, the story (which for me, how the lore moves on forward is part of) is certainly not the best (I do still like it personally, but objectively its bad writting just to get on recmmended pages on youtube tbh) but the world of warcraft (not the mmo, but the game saga's lore) is so so so so much more in depth than XIV. Its a lot more abundant, and XIV kindaaa copies a lot of things from it, like many others. After all, WoW's storytelling and lore direction is clunky at best, but as a world, Aezroth is just more amazing than Eorzea imo (I really like Eorzea though, this is my main game after all). Plus on some things the devs of XIV also do some extremely onsensical things (the reason why viera are leaving the forest is because ther world is in danger. Ok. But for whatever reason only the females do so, weh nby lore, it would be much more common for a male to just feel so tired of that lifestyle that they could want to leave. Or how fem hrots are, unless they have lots of babies at once, pregnant for liek their whole life?)
    If WoW respected his lore and was reflected in the game, you might be right, but it's no use having stories that you can't see or experience with your character.

    For example, according to the lore, the gnomes recovered Gnomeregan (I don't know the name in English, I'm Spanish). Make one (it's my main race) and you'll see that everything remains the same and that they have no interest in many things.

    Then for example you can see things as nonsense as why the Nightborne join the horde or why Sylvanas (the new OP waifu for no reason) burns the tree and destroys the civilian population.

    WoW has an extensive and worked lore? yes, it's good for something, you see some of that in the game you can experience? because basically I would say not even 60%.

    And as for the world... let's see, if FFXIV had WoW's graphics it could be recreated and create more detailed and extensive worlds, but we're not talking about the same after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    The story is bad. The lord of the Warcraft world migth be the best in any game ever. Its WAy more deep than XIV, and XIV's is GREAT, but at least imo, lore-wise, wow is just unbeatable (again, not talkign about story, story wise, wow cant even hope to stand a chance against xiv's amazing writting)
    Unfortunately, that lore is also at odds with gameplay. Any lore that is used to restrict class and race combination is just bad lore (same with FFXIV's lore to explain gender availability, though at least there is hope there).

    Deep lore is good for a story-only medium, like book/movie/tv/etc, not when it would impact gameplay like in a video game and even the story of the game itself. Like how, lorewise, the player character in WoW doesn't really exist, even though the gameplay story centers around what the player character does.
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Unfortunately, that lore is also at odds with gameplay. Any lore that is used to restrict class and race combination is just bad lore (same with FFXIV's lore to explain gender availability, though at least there is hope there).

    Deep lore is good for a story-only medium, like book/movie/tv/etc, not when it would impact gameplay like in a video game and even the story of the game itself. Like how, lorewise, the player character in WoW doesn't really exist, even though the gameplay story centers around what the player character does.
    I think I worded wrongly. WOW's lore isnt great. Azeroth's is. Eorzea's one, I must say though, is more consistent and you can see how everything connects and there are close to no nonsensical things (just a couple ones) plus it does fit the gameplay until you go to the mogstation (like riding in odin's horse or a giant fat cat lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by linay View Post
    Like how, lorewise, the player character in WoW doesn't really exist, even though the gameplay story centers around what the player character does.
    The player character in WoW exists, but only as a generic soldier/mercenary. All of the important deeds are credited to major lore figures instead. See all the memes about Thrall killstealing Deathwing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    The player character in WoW exists, but only as a generic soldier/mercenary. All of the important deeds are credited to major lore figures instead. See all the memes about Thrall killstealing Deathwing.
    Yeah, so practically nonexistent in the lore. You don't take credit for what other people do unless they don't exist and it was you who did it. The "generic soldier" attribution doesn't work when the game has you become leader of your class hall in Legion, only to change that in the lore.
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