[Request] Add Lv.60+ Squadron OR Trust dungeons for SB leveling deadzone

[zeth07]

As it stands now there is a deadzone for leveling alt jobs in dungeons solo for the 60-70 level gap from Stormblood that is not a problem for ARR, HW, or ShB due to Squadrons and Trust systems.

- For ARR there is a wide variety of dungeons from 20-47(50).
- For HW there is a minimal selection for 50, 53, and 57 (60), but still reasonable.
- For SB....there is nothing for Squadrons, technically you could do the 60 dungeons but that's not nearly the same.
- For ShB there is the Trust system, which covers the entire Lv71+ dungeons except for 2 80 ones that's largely unnecessary for leveling (obviously).

There are other alternatives like Palace of the Dead for 1-60 and Heaven on High for 61+, but that is just one method whereas you can see the dungeon method is covered for every other section so why not 60-70?

For example there isn't an alternative PotD version for 70+ yet but that could be added later for all we know, but the same can't be said for the dungeon alternative going backwards as mentioned since it already happened for that patch cycle.

With the Trust system now in place it seems odd to go backwards and use Squadrons to cover this level gap, so instead I imagine they can continue to use the Trust system to expand into this instead. The one issue I could see is the lore context of their outfits in old content but we know there are alternatives to that that they can use (even if not unlocked, they can be forced, so the "selection" is the reward once maxed still).

They could of course also add more characters to use as Trusts and give people a reason to go back and use them. For example Hien and Yugiri or Aymeric and Magnai.

If they don't want to include nearly every dungeon for 60+ section like the Trust system is for 70+, they could at least implement the selection based on the Squadron selection.

Current Squadron Dungeons:
- Multiple Lv.50 Item Sync Dungeons
- WP Hard = Lv.50 no item sync
- Sohm Al = Lv.53
- The Vault = Lv.57
- Two Lv.60 Item Sync Dungeons

So for Stormblood's Lv.60-70 section it would be something like:

- Whatever Lv.60 Item Sync Dungeons
- Sohm Al Hard = Lv.60 no item sync (or any of the 8...)
- Shisui of the Violet Tides = Lv.63
- Doma Castle = Lv.67
- Whatever Lv.70 Item Sync Dungeons

The idea is that we should have options available to us across the board, but for whatever reason that deadzone in Stormblood exists with the only alternative being Heaven on High.

They wouldn't have added the Trust system if they felt like they wanted more people just queueing for dungeons, so why then does this section of solo dungeon leveling not exist.

I think this is a reasonable thing to consider going forward as it would let people avoid queues for leveling this section if they so choose or at the very least not be stuck mindlessly grinding HoH. And of course allows them to expand the Trust system to add more things for people to grind to keep playing.

[Doozer]

But can't you just... like... do the dungeons normally? I understand with some stuff you may want to see it first for yourself without any pressure, but it is an MMO. You're not meant to be avoiding queues. And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing.

[Tint]

But can't you just... like... do the dungeons normally? I understand with some stuff you may want to see it first for yourself without any pressure, but it is an MMO. You're not meant to be avoiding queues. And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing.

But I hate people. I just play MMOs to be able to avoid them.

[Doozer]

But I hate people. I just play MMOs to be able to avoid them.

I'll assume that's a joke.

[Barraind]

SB has some of the easiest leveling options.

You have ~1.5 - 1.8mil xp /day day from beast tribes, and about that much from daily hunt logs, and HoH is a thing still.

Additionally, queueing for a 61-69 dungeon specifically will give you some priority for those in the leveling roulette, and roulette xp bonuses are scaled to your unsynced level.

[RokkuEkkusu]

I wouldn't mind additional dungeons for my full Offensive 5 squadron to test their mighty powers against. Extra XP and loot for me, with a little extra time saved compared to some average dungeon runs.

[Enla]

Honestly I'd like this simply because Squadrons need more content in general and it's high time they implemented more dungeons for them to do. It'd be a mess to go back and put in the frame work for trusts for those dungeons but actually updating existing content would be much appreciated, especially for those of us who are near cap or have capped our squadrons and have nothing else to sick them at.

[Alleo]

But can't you just... like... do the dungeons normally? I understand with some stuff you may want to see it first for yourself without any pressure, but it is an MMO. You're not meant to be avoiding queues. And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing.

I leveled all my jobs to 80 until a few weeks ago and the gap from 61-70 was honestly the worst. So many runs with randoms..and so many runs with horrible playing or rude people. It was enough that I did countless of runs of HoH inbetween (but its boring and sadly there are enough people that are annoyed when you use the items you gathered mostly yourself on stuff they dont like even though it makes the run faster...) but I was so happy when I finally reached 71 (70-71 was mostly done with fates) and I only ran the MSQ roulette each day on top of doing the rest with the trusts.

I am a solo player and hate dungeons with randoms. I would have never leveled the jobs up if it was all with randoms.

[Jybril]

But can't you just... like... do the dungeons normally? I understand with some stuff you may want to see it first for yourself without any pressure, but it is an MMO. You're not meant to be avoiding queues. And doing trusts and squadrons won't teach you the nuances of playing.

Most of the game is "Don't stand in bad - Look away" in the normal dungeons.
Plus Trusts were mainly added to alleviate DPS queue times.
It just so happens a lot of people use them for any job role though.

For me, I can just go in, AFK if I want or have a "Oops" death moment and not get screamed at.
It'll take me forever but still lol. I think it's one of the best pieces of content they added
that people still use daily. I hope they can expand it with Squadrons. I don't have them yet myself
but they could make it like Trusts and add flavor text to make them pop if they don't already
and have them all the way throughout the game. Hopefully the expand on Trust/Squads.
It'll be optional after all. Options are nice. I love options lol.

[Frankiepup]

I maybe mistaken, but I don't think the squadrons are able to do every dungeon. which is a shame and think they should expand and also let them have actual job roles. they are a bit basic with no Job roles, just the starting classes. love the trust system, i use it for the first run through of a dungeon where I can. helps me learn mechanics a lot easier as the AI is actually quite good on those.