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  1. #10581
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    Destati's Avatar
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    Aoki Kha
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    One friend of mine said once in a discussion about 1.0 and its missing genders that if male Miqo'te weren't a thing he wouldn't play the game (and he actually dropped it in 1.0 but then came back in 2.0 and still plays). So... as much as it could sound weird for you or me or somebody else, there are people for whom this can be critically important, since different people have different priorities. Not like they would do big amount of people, but still. Your point about liking the game overall is at right, actually, it's just that somebody pays more attention to customization options than to other things. I mean, customization is still a content, and I even had games I left because I didn't like their style (yes, they had other issues for me as well, but at this point they couldn't keep my attention even visually).
    As ridiculous as this might sound the one thing that outright killed my interest in playing FFXI years ago was the fact that male Mithra were not available. It would have been the same with FFXIV since I noticed they "reused" the races here until I learned that Miqo'te had playable male counterparts. I have no idea what I was missing out on with FFXI, but I don't play female characters and none of the other races really interested me so I didn't touch it. Character customization can be a huge make or break component in games for me.
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  2. #10582
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    Koh'li Mewmore
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    Balmung
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    Game development and lore is big deal. But the catching is how a game looks and the relation between player and character.
    We like how they look, which glamour we use... So the lack of, after an expectation so huge as we was in, can be a deal breaker.
    I almost dropped out, since 2013 never stopped playing, but it was a punch that broke the fantasy.
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  3. #10583
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    VirusOnline's Avatar
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    Yoshi Papa
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    Monk Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Destati View Post
    As ridiculous as this might sound the one thing that outright killed my interest in playing FFXI years ago was the fact that male Mithra were not available. It would have been the same with FFXIV since I noticed they "reused" the races here until I learned that Miqo'te had playable male counterparts. I have no idea what I was missing out on with FFXI, but I don't play female characters and none of the other races really interested me so I didn't touch it. Character customization can be a huge make or break component in games for me.
    This isn't a ridiculous notion at all. This is an mmorpg. 'RPG'. I mean think D&D and such tabletop games from where this all originates from. We create these complex characters in all stats, story, background, race, gender, how they look. We customized characters from every single aspect and some go down to every single nuance. In such games, we can become that rare elusive race. The GM doesn't say 'no, impossible', SE here being the GM that does. As testament to this thread, many hundred or the hundreds of thousands playing mmo and rpgs will agree that customization and gameplay often go hand in hand.

    I also exclusively play male characters only. I was ecstatic when I found this game in HW and found no gender restrictions.

    SE sorta jumped off the narrative here and sailing straight into hmmmm territory.
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  4. #10584
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    Aisha Starglow
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Destati View Post
    As ridiculous as this might sound the one thing that outright killed my interest in playing FFXI years ago was the fact that male Mithra were not available. It would have been the same with FFXIV since I noticed they "reused" the races here until I learned that Miqo'te had playable male counterparts. I have no idea what I was missing out on with FFXI, but I don't play female characters and none of the other races really interested me so I didn't touch it. Character customization can be a huge make or break component in games for me.
    I play XIV over WOW for the same reason of customization and player models
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  5. #10585
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    Arkfrost's Avatar
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    Luma Arkfrost
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    Phoenix
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    This thread must stay on page 1 because I want my Viera to finally be a dude again >_>
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  6. #10586
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    This isn't a ridiculous notion at all. This is an mmorpg. 'RPG'. I mean think D&D and such tabletop games from where this all originates from. We create these complex characters in all stats, story, background, race, gender, how they look. We customized characters from every single aspect and some go down to every single nuance. In such games, we can become that rare elusive race. The GM doesn't say 'no, impossible', SE here being the GM that does.
    That's not a fair comparison to make.

    Your D&D GM doesn't say "no" to your wild ideas for character customisation because they have no reason to do so. The process is restricted - and the character defined - only by your imagination.

    This game is starting from an entirely different point. Each basic character has to be pre-conceived and modelled by the programmers before you can play as it. There will always be restrictions whether male Viera is within them or not - you can't just dream up any character idea and expect to be able to play as it.

    It's more like if your GM had a box of pre-made figurines and said you could only play as a character based on them.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 11-25-2019 at 10:18 PM.

  7. #10587
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    Ainslie Tinley
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    Omega
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Where do I sign? Gender locks are ridicolous.
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  8. #10588
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    Aisha Starglow
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Where do I sign? Gender locks are ridicolous.
    Adding a like to the first post and puttng replis like this are enough. Now we can just wait to see fi the devs will catter to the request ^^
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  9. #10589
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Adding a like to the first post and puttng replis like this are enough. Now we can just wait to see fi the devs will catter to the request ^^
    We still don't have a single new hairstyle for viera. I wouldn't hold out hope.
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  10. #10590
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    Aisha Starglow
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    We still don't have a single new hairstyle for viera. I wouldn't hold out hope.
    Well, I must say female viera and male hrotgar are extremely dissapointing themselves. I just hope that both you and us can by please by when 6.0 comes, but after seeing how SE is managing their decission making lately I too wouldnt hold out too much hope. At least I do like female miqo'te so shrug*
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