Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

its basically in "maybe" mode right now and probably will be for awhile
i do wish they would say just no or yes so people can move on aswell

Why? That would lock them into either choice. I suppose if they want to do some marketing ploy or something, they could say "No" then later come out with them and do some good PR talk.

[Alleo]

Why? That would lock them into either choice. I suppose if they want to do some marketing ploy or something, they could say "No" then later come out with them and do some good PR talk.

But at the same time if their choice is no then people can move on and maybe decide if they still want to continue playing the game, while them saying yes could be a way for us to remind them about that promise. With a "maybe" they could simply just never do it and we are stuck in the cycle of disappointement and hope.

[SturmChurro]

But at the same time if their choice is no then people can move on and maybe decide if they still want to continue playing the game, while them saying yes could be a way for us to remind them about that promise. With a "maybe" they could simply just never do it and we are stuck in the cycle of disappointement and hope.

Quit the game over male viera though? I mean, I'm just saying if not having male viera - that was never in the game beforehand - makes someone not want to continue playing the game then I don't think they really liked the game to begin with.

[Kobalos]

Quit the game over male viera though? I mean, I'm just saying if not having male viera - that was never in the game beforehand - makes someone not want to continue playing the game then I don't think they really liked the game to begin with.

Agreed - I don't like gender locks and am still a little dissapointed that thats the route FF desided to go, would I quit the game over it? Of course not I do think folks are over reacting just a wee bit...

[Alleo]

Quit the game over male viera though? I mean, I'm just saying if not having male viera - that was never in the game beforehand - makes someone not want to continue playing the game then I don't think they really liked the game to begin with.

Everyone has their own reasons for why they play the game. Maybe someone just really dislikes gender locks and with no hope of getting it removed they say that they dont want to continue giving SE money. Some dont like microtransactions and might stop playing a game they like because they dont want to give more money to such a company. Heck quite a few people stopped their subs on WoW because of something the company did outside the game.

Maybe others are already just on the point of no return and are waiting for the decision on gender locks to see if they want to still play it.

In the end there are lots of reasons why someone might stop and even if we cant understand that reasons doesnt make them wrong for the person itself. And it does not mean that they have never liked the game..it just means that too much might have happened for them to not like it anymore.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

Everyone has their own reasons for why they play the game. Maybe someone just really dislikes gender locks and with no hope of getting it removed they say that they dont want to continue giving SE money. Some dont like microtransactions and might stop playing a game they like because they dont want to give more money to such a company. Heck quite a few people stopped their subs on WoW because of something the company did outside the game.

Maybe others are already just on the point of no return and are waiting for the decision on gender locks to see if they want to still play it.

In the end there are lots of reasons why someone might stop and even if we cant understand that reasons doesnt make them wrong for the person itself. And it does not mean that they have never liked the game..it just means that too much might have happened for them to not like it anymore.

If they already disliked the game that much that they wanted to quit, I don't think adding male viera would save them from quitting. It might be a band-aid that prevents it for a month, but once the newness wears off, they'd leave anyways. So I agree. If you're quitting over a race, you're already basically out the door anyways.

[Burmecia]

I know SE tried to explain the lack of missing sexes with lore. What honestly piques my curiousity, especially after SE has since offered us truer and more practical explanation, why the discussion about lore continues so heated? I am nerd too and love to mull over intricacies of fantasy worlds, but...

Would someone who was VERY MUCH against MV/FH change their mind if lore suddenly and unquestionably screamed MV/FH to be a thing?
And the other way around: would someone super pro-MV/FH go back on his word if lore suddenly was super clear about MV/FH practically not existing at all?

I have my own suspicions, but I think I'm gonna keep them to myself for now. I'm pro-MV/FH btw

[wereotter]

Don't fancy reading a thousand pages but has there been any movement on this? Some reason to believe it may happen since this thread was started? Feels like the answer is "no, but we'll humour you by saying it's a 'possibility'... some day... maybe", like a meteor falling on your house or winning the lottery...

If they absolutely are not going to do it or have no plans to address it, they should just come out and say it... and use the the word "never".

If you watch how they talk, they very rarely say outright "no" to anything. The only hard "no never" I can recall them saying had to do with repeating the branding jobs off a single class in the vein of summoner/scholar. So it makes it hard to gauge how they will proceed. But what last I knew, they knew that the choice to only do one sex per race was going to be unpopular, but Yoshida also said he underestimated just how upset this decision would make people in interviews he's done since the release.

One thing that's fair to say about the developers, they're often very willing to try to do things that the players overwhelmingly request. This is how we have Ishgard Restoration, Lords of Verminion, many job adjustments seem to take player feedback into consideration, etc. So it's fair to say that if they can tackle the workload that will be implementing the other sexes as well as the increased work for the two sexes for all future gear, then it's fair to anticipate that we will see them in the future.

[Halivel]

Quit the game over male viera though? I mean, I'm just saying if not having male viera - that was never in the game beforehand - makes someone not want to continue playing the game then I don't think they really liked the game to begin with.

One friend of mine said once in a discussion about 1.0 and its missing genders that if male Miqo'te weren't a thing he wouldn't play the game (and he actually dropped it in 1.0 but then came back in 2.0 and still plays). So... as much as it could sound weird for you or me or somebody else, there are people for whom this can be critically important, since different people have different priorities. Not like they would do big amount of people, but still. Your point about liking the game overall is at right, actually, it's just that somebody pays more attention to customization options than to other things. I mean, customization is still a content, and I even had games I left because I didn't like their style (yes, they had other issues for me as well, but at this point they couldn't keep my attention even visually).

[zeylos]

One friend of mine said once in a discussion about 1.0 and its missing genders that if male Miqo'te weren't a thing he wouldn't play the game (and he actually dropped it in 1.0 but then came back in 2.0 and still plays). So... as much as it could sound weird for you or me or somebody else, there are people for whom this can be critically important, since different people have different priorities. Not like they would do big amount of people, but still. Your point about liking the game overall is at right, actually, it's just that somebody pays more attention to customization options than to other things. I mean, customization is still a content, and I even had games I left because I didn't like their style (yes, they had other issues for me as well, but at this point they couldn't keep my attention even visually).

I wouldnt drop out because of no male viera but male viera would make me play a lot more since I'd most liekly like a lot more how my char looks