Astro changes 5.1

[Shurrikhan]

After realizing I failed to account for another factor, I'll correct this. It is in fact too much.

The buffs to DPS jobs that happened across the board has put AST at the top by quite a bit.

And now AST+SCH is dominating, being above WHM+SCH by a very significant amount, even in E1S.

Ouch. Such were my fears. Though I'll give it another week and/or the removal of WHM from the top 10 combined healer damage ranks of each Savage fight before I transition from conscientious alarm to a wallowing in disappointment.

Meanwhile, how do we all feel the solution should progress? Should we rein unintended overbuffs back in or increase healer relative contribution through role power creep in our next attempt at parity?

[LariaKirin]

Ouch. Such were my fears. Though I'll give it another week and/or the removal of WHM from the top 10 combined healer damage ranks of each Savage fight before I transition from conscientious alarm to a wallowing in disappointment.

Meanwhile, how do we all feel the solution should progress? Should we rein unintended overbuffs back in or increase healer relative contribution through role power creep in our next attempt at parity?

I say this based on 95 percentile, so at the time of this post:
- In the case of AST+SCH, that would would cover about 11 samples.
- In the case of SCH+WHM, that would cover about 78 samples.

I expect volatility from AST+SCH given the number of samples, that's the number that is most likely to change in the following days. I agree that we have a sampling problem, but I think it's enough to conclude that AST+SCH will be on top. The question will be, by how much?

What I thought AST needed before knowing anything about 5.1 was the Combust buff. And even then, I wasn't sure about it because of how good the AST+SCH synergy is (even more so now that CU is back to its broken state). The Malefic buff, I just don't understand. And I didn't when I failed to account for the indirect RDPS buffs either.

On the plus side, AST+WHM seems to be pretty close to SCH+WHM at the moment. So I suppose we'll soon have a pretty good idea of how much WHM needs to solidify its role as the "selfish" healer and bring the three possible combinations within competitive numbers with each other.

[Crushnight]

I say this based on 95 percentile, so at the time of this post:
- In the case of AST+SCH, that would would cover about 11 samples.
- In the case of SCH+WHM, that would cover about 78 samples.

I expect volatility from AST+SCH given the number of samples, that's the number that is most likely to change in the following days. I agree that we have a sampling problem, but I think it's enough to conclude that AST+SCH will be on top. The question will be, by how much?

What I thought AST needed before knowing anything about 5.1 was the Combust buff. And even then, I wasn't sure about it because of how good the AST+SCH synergy is (even more so now that CU is back to its broken state). The Malefic buff, I just don't understand. And I didn't when I failed to account for the indirect RDPS buffs either.

On the plus side, AST+WHM seems to be pretty close to SCH+WHM at the moment. So I suppose we'll soon have a pretty good idea of how much WHM needs to solidify its role as the "selfish" healer and bring the three possible combinations within competitive numbers with each other.

The numbers may not shift as much as you think, AST's playstyle has barely changed with 5.1, which is the biggest contending factor to how much it is used, WHM throughout SB was considered inferior to AST yet it still had plenty more parses in each raid tier than current AST does, the current numbers difference only matter for those trying to be as optimal as possible which is a narrow group by far, playstyle is far more important and the shift that AST got with the expansion created a decent amount of contention with a decent amount of people still not going to be happy now, potency fix would look like a plaster going on a scar to these people.